More points this season Crosby vs Ovi

[Nadal On Clay]

Crosby has never had a full season close to as good as Ovechkin's 07/08, 08/09, 09/10 either so don't worry it balances out.

2006-2007
2009-2010
2013-2014

They’re all close.

 

[412 Others]

That's extremely doubt full , okay pretty much impossible to argue that point now, at this point as Sid and Alex have the same number of regular season points and Alex has played in 140 more games.

Same number of points except one guy got there in 1.75 less seasons. The only move for Ovechkin fans is to try to overhaul the point scoring system and devalue playmaking. Have they tried that yet?

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Which player is better

1188 points in 919 games
1188 points in 1,060 games

Playoffs
185 points in 160 games
117 points in 121 games

Hm.....

 

[GreatGonzo]

Which player is better

1188 points in 919 games
1188 points in 1,060 games

Playoffs
185 points in 160 games
117 points in 121 games

Hm.....

So now your changing the argument from this season to careers.....hmmm. I’m not surprised honestly.

 

[GreatGonzo]

2006-2007
2009-2010
2013-2014

They’re all close.

I think everyone can agree that Ovechkins peak was better with his highest peak season being better. Although close, both favor Ovi.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

So now your changing the argument from this season to careers.....hmmm. I’m not surprised honestly.

Well both go Crosby’s way lol. It’s just funny right now that they both have 1188 points. But cooler that one guy has it in 141 less games

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Ovi is better as a complete player.

actually more dynamic.

This is pretty crazy if you believe this to be true and are not yanking everyone's chain. I can't tell.

 

[GreatGonzo]

Well both go Crosby’s way lol. It’s just funny right now that they both have 1188 points. But cooler that one guy has it in 141 less games

Again you can’t say Crosby has been better this season just because he just had a big game. Stick to one argument, stop bouncing around to gain momentum. It’s sad

 

[wetcoast]

No, he played for Adam Oates and Dale Hunter.
He's one of the most complete players in the league now.

This reminds me of the post you had that Crosby wasn't even a top 600 player defensively.

But go ahead just keep making stuff up, can't wait to see Ovechkin on the Selke voting this year.

On the other hand Crosby will have his 3rd year in a row top 10.

On a related topic how much do you want to bet that Crosby ends up at least 5 spots higher than Ovechkin in Hart voting?

 

[wetcoast]

No shame in Sid being second best on his own team.

How so?

Maybe stop and think before posting there is zero argument that Malkin has been better this season for the Pens or over their careers as Penguins, plain and simple.

 

[Lebowski]

Crosby has been better in the playoffs than Malkin and Ovechkin. However I would say OV has clearly been the best between the 3 in the regular season.

As evidenced by Crosby’s substantially higher PPG.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

This reminds me of the post you had that Crosby wasn't even a top 600 player defensively.

But go ahead just keep making stuff up, can't wait to see Ovechkin on the Selke voting this year.

On the other hand Crosby will have his 3rd year in a row top 10.

On a related topic how much do you want to bet that Crosby ends up at least 5 spots higher than Ovechkin in Hart voting?

Like last season when you Crosby fanboys were pumping this same "complete player" bs?

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

As evidenced by Crosby’s substantially higher PPG.

No, as evidenced by OV's 16-11 gap in individual awards and OV having the best peak of this era. But if you prefer the fantasy of PPG, that's your opinion.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

2006-2007
2009-2010
2013-2014

They’re all close.

Yes those 3 seasons are close to each other. None are close to OV's 3 best though.

 

[wetcoast]

Like last season when you Crosby fanboys were pumping this same "complete player" bs?

I guess when one doesn't have a great argument then the fanboy comment has to get thrown out eh?

That being said Crosby didn't have one of his better full seasons last year and was still ahead of Ovechkin in points.

It's pretty much a toss up at best even if you are inclined towards goal scoring as Crosby still is an elite 2 way center

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

No, as evidenced by OV's 16-11 gap in individual awards and OV having the best peak of this era. But if you prefer the fantasy of PPG, that's your opinion.

What fantasy? He is literally tied with him in points with 141 less games. And Ovechkin is like Nadal who only wins 1 grand slam a year. The French.
Nobody from gms analysts coaches owners etc will ever take him over Crosby. It’s an insane notion

 

[GreatGonzo]

I guess when one doesn't have a great argument then the fanboy comment has to get thrown out eh?

That being said Crosby didn't have one of his better full seasons last year and was still ahead of Ovechkin in points.

It's pretty much a toss up at best even if you are inclined towards goal scoring as Crosby still is an elite 2 way center

He finished 2 points ahead of Ovechkin while Ovechkin had nearly 20 more goals(leading the league). Are you honestly going to use a 2 point margin to benefit Crosby?

Ovechkin was better last year, I don’t see how it’s debatable. Even the playoffs, Ovechkin walked away with a cup and Smythe, while leading the league in goals in the regular and post season....what did Crosby do?

Funny thing is, if the roles were reversed, I guarantee many in this very thread would say Crosby was better “AINEC.”

 

[GreatGonzo]

What fantasy? He is literally tied with him in points with 141 less games. And Ovechkin is like Nadal who only wins 1 grand slam a year. The French.
Nobody from gms analysts coaches owners etc will ever take him over Crosby. It’s an insane notion

Ok, go ahead and prove that please. Don’t say such a general statement based on your weird infatuation with Crosby.

 

[Nadal On Clay]

Yes those 3 seasons are close to each other. None are close to OV's 3 best though.

Strange. Remove your glasses and try again.

 

[Lebowski]

No, as evidenced by OV's 16-11 gap in individual awards and OV having the best peak of this era. But if you prefer the fantasy of PPG, that's your opinion.

PPG is a direct measure of games that were played.

 

[Randyne]

PPG is a direct measure of games that were played.

Crosby's PPG overlapping with Malkin's PPG so it's not correct to compare one alltimegreat's PPG with two.

 

[Lebowski]

Crosby's PPG overlapping with Malkin's PPG so it's not correct to compare one alltimegreat's PPG with two.

I hope this is sarcasm.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

What fantasy? He is literally tied with him in points with 141 less games. And Ovechkin is like Nadal who only wins 1 grand slam a year. The French.
Nobody from gms analysts coaches owners etc will ever take him over Crosby. It’s an insane notion

Nadal is a career golden slam champion, something Federer and Djokovic are not. A+ for effort, but as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Randyne]

I hope this is sarcasm.

It's not. Crosby and Malkin together generated 1,876 goals for their team. Ovi generated 63.3% of their totals combined.
Crosby's Top 10 contributors 2006-2011:

2006-07	P	2007-08	P	2008-09	P	2009-10	P	2010-11	P	2011-12	P
Mark Recchi	44	Evgeni Malkin	32	Evgeni Malkin	53	Evgeni Malkin (66GP)	30	Evgeni Malkin (36GP)	22	Evgeni Malkin	14
Evgeni Malkin (75GP)	38	Sergei Gonchar	27	Kris Letang	15	Bill Guerin	26	Chris Kunitz	21	Pascal Dupuis	12
Sergei Gonchar	35	Colby Armstrong	16	Miroslav Satan	14	Sergei Gonchar	23	Kris Letang	20	Chris Kunitz	9
Ryan Whitney	25	Ryan Whitney	12	Petr Sykora	13	Alex Goligoski	18	Pascal Dupuis	12	Kris Letang	6
Ryan Malone	19	Ryan Malone	9	Pascal Dupuis	12	Pascal Dupuis	15	Alex Goligoski	11	James Neal	5
Colby Armstrong	11	Petr Sykora	8	Chris Kunitz	10	Chris Kunitz	14	Brooks Orpik	6	Matt Cooke	5
Michel Ouellet	11	Kris Letang	5	Sergei Gonchar	8	Kris Letang	11	Matt Cooke	5	Steve Sullivan	5
Erik Christensen	7	Mark Recchi	4	Bill Guerin	7	Brooks Orpik	9	Tyler Kennedy	5	Tyler Kennedy	4
Rob Scuderi	7	Darryl Sydor	3	Ryan Whitney	7	Mark Eaton	8	Paul Martin	4	Deryk Engelland	3
Josef Melichar	6	Marian Hossa	3	Alex Goligoski	6	Ruslan Fedotenko	8	Deryk Engelland	3	Paul Martin	3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Nadal is a career golden slam champion, something Federer and Djokovic are not. A+ for effort, but as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.

Lol. 11 of nadals 17 slams are French. Only 6 without clay. He is a clay specialist