So, for 9M extra over 13 years, would you counsel him that it wise to take the risk? What if he has a serious injury, illness, or his game simply doesn't progress? In the first instance he gets twice as much as in the second. Keep in mind that both models have him making over 100M, which is an enormous payout for any man.
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I love what Kaprizov brings to the team, and would hate to see him go, but if he really doesn't want to be here then the sooner we rip the bandaid off, the better. Laf isn't close to what Kap is at this time, but is far younger, and his timeline suits our salary structure far better. I think NYR need to be good right now, while Panarin and Zibanejad are in their primes. NY is a town that is very impatient.
I don't see that our team is anything but a bubble team in the playoffs at best over the next 3-4 years, until we get out from under the buyouts.
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Dr Jan Itor
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The only issue you run into with a short contract is that you have to figure that Kaprizov isn't going to be in future plans. If you build around Kaprizov and he bolts - hope you have a plan b, c and d.
Edit: BTW this is why I like talking to Bazeek. He's rational, calm and articulate. I think we can all take a lesson from him. He doesn't attack, he doesn't snipe. He provides a good debate.
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Our sense of scale might just be much different because I wouldn't consider a 5 year contract "short term." I also don't see much point in planning things out 5+ years into the future except in the broadest possible terms, though. There could well be players on the 2026-27 roster that haven't even been drafted yet.
Very true, but you can start taking shape of your roster with some 'veterans' by then. More so, the year 3 and 4 is the most problematic for the Wild with 15 million in cap space already taken by two players not here. Finally 5 years, while not a 'short term' contract means that the Wild has a small window to compete in. The buyouts for Parise and Suter really, really mess up the timelines a LOT.
In my mind - it seems really odd:
Year 1 - don't really compete, but maybe make the playoffs?
Year 2 - cap space goes up, but so does Parise/Suter buyouts. Again don't compete but maybe make the playoffs?
Year 3 - ??? Cap space is eaten up by Parise/Suter buyouts. Do we compete now? What's the plan?
Tread water for 4 years?
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If 2023-25 are going to be the worst years cap-wise is that not an argument in favor of offering medium-term deals that keep the AAV lower but still give the team options for an extension after the buyouts expire? The trade-off is certainty vs flexibility, which is basically the same trade-off as the buyouts themselves but in reverse. I just don't see it as a problem, especially when we've already got several players (Spurgeon, Brodin and Eriksson-Ek) already signed long term as "tent-pole" types. I can see why they'd be interested in making Kaprizov a 4th, but I don't think it's all that crucial.
You're banking though on those extensions being in place, but if Kaprizov doesn't seem improvement, why won't he just walk? Which could cause a lot more issues down the road.
I'm not banking on an extension being in place, I'm just saying it'll be possible in terms of the cap space. If Kaprizov and/or the team don't want to extend the contract there are other things they can do, namely trade him as a rental or "rent" him themselves. Neither of those are inherently bad options.
Dr Jan Itor
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You sign him for 4 years so you can make a competitive extension offer the summer before the 4th year. If he doesn't accept, then he doesn't see the ice in a Wild jersey that year.
It is pure Minnesota sports that after one season the discussion is already who the Wild can get back for the best scorer in franchise history lol.
DANOZ28
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well if guerin knew he was gonna buyout parise & suter we could have protected kunin instead bonino's gone and we have a 2nd rnd pick who may or may not ever play in the nhl? we gave up a 20G scorer for that? another guerin fail. guerin being a rookie gm is starting to look like another craig leipold fail. maybe time to start a wild need new ownership thread?
DANOZ28
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can't lose kaprizov for nothing see gaborik ; rolston; demitra that set us back YEARS!
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I mean, really the biggest mistake this organization ever made was trading Zucker. I don't know the organization will ever recover.
Kunin for Bonino is a nothing trade. Additionally we received Marat in the trade so I don't know how you can call it a fail yet, but you do you man. You do you.
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Was on a 20 goal pace... while still getting destroyed in possession despite being given more favorable zone starts than ever before. I didn't watch the preds at all last year but I'm gonna hazard a guess he's still nothing that will move the needle for us.
Extrapolating the games he missed...it was more like 15 over a full season. But yes...I agree he's nothing to lose sleep over
Kunin is basically Ryan Hartman with less intangibles, do not miss him at all.
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I do not recall seeing this strategy work.
Rather, it becomes a distraction and then the Sword of Damocles over the team during one or two seasons they are supposed to be making a run, and then the final year is a painful "will he, won't he" where the team has to take a step back right at the time things need to come together.
He is either part of the plan or not. If not, better to know sooner then later.
Sell high. Move on.
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