Matthews/Nylander vs Pettersson/Boeser

[Holymakinaw]

Pettersson/Boeser.

Nylander is the weakest link.

LOL. Nylander will get more points than Pettersson this year.

 

[sparxx87]

The funny thing is how similar Boeser is to Matthews. They are both right handed shoot first Americans with very similar production, goal to assist ratio and games played in each season so far in their careers.

I would say Matthews = Boeser
Pettersson >>>>> Nylander

Lol oh dear.

 

[DL44]

This thread is going to be very fun to follow and see play out this season...

This thread could be like that Leaf trio vs Flyer trio from a couple seasons ago... hopefully it’s close all season..

Ideal situation- one duo jumps out to a big lead over the first 41 gms -and their fan base goes hyperbolic- only to have the have the second duo comeback and pass em by seasons end. Then a feast of crow to be served. And tears over games played.

Can’t wait.


I can’t believe how absolute people are speaking.
No one can predict injuries.

 

[All Mod Cons]

This thread is going to be very fun to follow and see play out this season...

This thread could be like that Leaf trio vs Flyer trio from a couple seasons ago... hopefully it’s close all season..

Ideal situation- one duo jumps out to a big lead over the first 41 gms -and their fan base goes hyperbolic- only to have the have the second duo comeback and pass em by seasons end. Then a feast of crow to be served. And tears over games played.

Can’t wait.


I can’t believe how absolute people are speaking.
No one can predict injuries.

Reminds me of the Laine lock for Calder stuff. And then silence

 

[ZippityDooDa]

Okay, that's fine then. If games played don't matter...

Boeser: 26 goals, 56 points

Nylander: 7 goals, 27 points.

Boeser almost as many goals as Willie has points, lol

Yea or you know, Nylanders first two full seasons where he put up 61 points each..

Nylander = Boeser
Matthews = Pettersson

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Nylander best season: 61 pts in 82 games. 0.74 PPG
Boeser worst season: 56 pts in 69 games. 0.81 PPG

These are also facts.

Let me know when Nylander scores 25 goals.

I must be living in bizarro world where math is diluted. If someone goes into a job and makes the company more money for the year he’s considered the higher earner not the individual that comes close but was sick for long periods of time....plain and simple.

By your standards, Justin Holl who a few seasons ago played two games for the Leafs and scored in both was a better defenceman than 90 percent of the league because his PPG was at least 1.00. That’s not how this works.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

How though? Numbers say it's a very good one.

No true hockey expert actually believes Boeser and Matthews are equals. Auston gets hurt as much and still puts up better numbers, plays the tougher position and is a complete player.

 

[Stamkos4life]

I must be living in bizarro world where math is diluted. If someone goes into a job and makes the company more money for the year he’s considered the higher earner not the individual that comes close but was sick for long periods of time....plain and simple.

By your standards, Justin Holl who a few seasons ago played two games for the Leafs and scored in both was a better defenceman than 90 percent of the league because his PPG was at least 1.00. That’s not how this works.

So, just to clarify, marner > Matthew's?

 

[Pyrophorus]

There is no general second year correction. That’s a myth that has been debunked.
At this point I think most reasonable poster will agree that it is not laughable to choose one of EP or Matthews over the other. Matthews is the better goal scorer and EP the better playmaker.
Could go either way.

This is good fair post.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Where do you get this from? Nylander produced like crap last year so no. You can not make statements like that. You'd be lying.

What's a lie? I'm not seeing it.

 

[CraigsList]

Matthews > Pettersson
Nylander =< Boeser

Toronto’s pair but not by much.

 

[Chicken Souvlaki]

Neither will do all that great. Both are overrated.

But it’s still Canucks easily. They should be around 150pts combined and the Leafs duo will be around 100pts combined.

 

[dubey]

Neither will do all that great. Both are overrated.

But it’s still Canucks easily. They should be around 150pts combined and the Leafs duo will be around 100pts combined.

100 pts each*

Fixed 4u

 

[Regal]

This thread is going to be very fun to follow and see play out this season...

This thread could be like that Leaf trio vs Flyer trio from a couple seasons ago... hopefully it’s close all season..

Ideal situation- one duo jumps out to a big lead over the first 41 gms -and their fan base goes hyperbolic- only to have the have the second duo comeback and pass em by seasons end. Then a feast of crow to be served. And tears over games played.

Can’t wait.


I can’t believe how absolute people are speaking.
No one can predict injuries.

Sounds like the Marner vs Kane vs Marchand vs Gaudreau thread from last year. Wonder what the similarity would be. Hmm...

 

[CanadienShark]

Leafs duo.

 

[82Ninety42011]

100 pts each*

Fixed 4u

Let one of them even break 80 before you start throwing 100 out there. That goes for all 4 players being discussed.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

LOL. Nylander will get more points than Pettersson this year.

Pretty easy to make predictions when you can disappear anytime it doesn't pan out.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

I must be living in bizarro world where math is diluted. If someone goes into a job and makes the company more money for the year he’s considered the higher earner not the individual that comes close but was sick for long periods of time....plain and simple.

By your standards, Justin Holl who a few seasons ago played two games for the Leafs and scored in both was a better defenceman than 90 percent of the league because his PPG was at least 1.00. That’s not how this works.

So if one were to go back in your history to when Matthews had injuries/lower raw point totals to start his career, we wouldn't find you contradicting yourself?

 

[The List Of Jericho]

So, just to clarify, marner > Matthew's?

Was Marner better last season sure, is he the better overall, I personally don't think so but isn't lopsided.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

So if one were to go back in your history to when Matthews had injuries/lower raw point totals to start his career, we wouldn't find you contradicting yourself?

Matthews hasn't been injured every season and put up exceptional rookie numbers that most rookies couldn't hold a candle to. I probably mentioned something in the Matthews\Laine threads because that was the crutch Jets fans were on and they were quite wrong lol.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Matthews hasn't been injured every season and put up exceptional rookie numbers that most rookies couldn't hold a candle to. I probably mentioned something in the Matthews\Laine threads because that was the crutch Jets fans were on and they were quite wrong lol.

Right - and my point wasn't to take anything away from Matthews in that post. My point is Boeser was sitting at 29 goals and 55 points with 20 games left in his first season when a freak injury occurred (got thrown into an open door at speed, back-first).

That kind freak play would injure anyone, so calling him injury prone is disingenuous imo. It's also disingenuous when people say he's not a 30 goal/60 point scorer when he's always been on pace to exceed those marks by a fair amount. (That was the cherry-picking you were doing by citing his raw totals).

As a fan of Matthews who's had the same unfair criticisms thrown at him, you can see my point no?

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Ideal situation- one duo jumps out to a big lead over the first 41 gms -and their fan base goes hyperbolic- only to have the have the second duo comeback and pass em by seasons end. Then a feast of crow to be served. And tears over games played

this sounds like every Leafs thread ever. Especially ones that involve Matthews being better than McDavid based off the first 5 games of the season

 

[Peggy]

What's a lie? I'm not seeing it.

"Nylander produces more"
He did not

 

[Pyrophorus]

"Nylander produces more"
He did not

61 isn't > 56??

In fact its the same gap between Canucks: 5pts less than EP, 5pts more than Brock.

 

[Peggy]

61 isn't > 56??

In fact its the same gap between Canucks: 5pts less than EP, 5pts more than Brock.

56>24

Not even close lol