Hall for Larsson is the reason why you don't trade Halls for Larssons anymore.I doubt you'd get any bites on this. As good as Marner is, wingers just don't fetch those kind of D; the positional value isn't there. When Edmonton moved Hall, they were offering him for virtually any U-25 RD in the league who looked to have the potential to fill that kind of role, and NJ was their only taker. Marner is a bit better than Hall was at the time of that trade, but that's probably not enough to get you from Adam Larsson to a genuine top pair D. The flat cap also doesn't help things.
lol what.
Yes. 100%.
Marner is in a class of wingers that drive a 1st line.
Dumba, Klingberg, and to a lesser extent, Ellis, are not defensive Dmen. Didn't TML learn anything with the Barrie debacle?
Hall for Larsson is the reason why you don't trade Halls for Larssons anymore.
Yes. 100%.
Marner is in a class of wingers that drive a 1st line.
That could be possible, but it's still a bad idea to pay 11mill/season for it, especially when the team's already paying 11+mill/season each for two centers. Why does an 11mill winger & 11mill center need to play together? Doesn't seem like the team's getting good value for it for those that subscribe to the money puck philosophy.
Imo, an eight-figure yearly salary should be reserved for players that can make middle-6 players look like 1st-liners; eg. Connor McDavid, Sidney Crosby, etc. Not make first liners look like first liners.
Paying your best players is never a problem.
I feel Kyle Dubas overpaid Mitch Marner b/c of the Mike Babcock situation, and the flat cap exacerbated it. A Leon Draisaitl-esque contract would've been more than fair, and that's w/ inflation being accounted for.
this shit is comical at this point.Oh no! That extra 1.3 million could go to Kyle Clifford instead!!!
The Marner contract is fine and people are
being obnoxious about it because the Leafs got beat in a freak off season.
Oh no! That extra 1.3 million could go to Kyle Clifford instead!!!
The Marner contract is fine and people are
being obnoxious about it because the Leafs got beat in a freak off season.
Leon Draisaitl's cap hit is 8.5mill, so that's an additional 2.4mill. 2.4mill is the difference between paying an average 3-3.5mill player & a 5.5-5.9mill good/star level player. Nothing to scoff at.
The Doughty thing had been suggested ad nauseum. Doughty will retire a King. Blake publically stated the he and Kopitar are going nowhere. Other than that, the Kings are going to have a young D group and will need his leadership.Doughty/Ellis.
Pens bounced by last placed MTL...nothingOh no! That extra 1.3 million could go to Kyle Clifford instead!!!
The Marner contract is fine and people are
being obnoxious about it because the Leafs got beat in a freak off season.
Over the length of Marner’s contract how many better RWs in the league will there be?
I subscribe to some money puck ideas, so when it comes to wingers, I value goals & take into account how many that player produces compared to what he's getting paid. Mitch Marner had 16 goals this past season, while playing w/ an 11million/season center, and Marner himself got paid 10.9mill. That's $681,250 per goal. Not going to do that math for every 20+ goal RWer, but I imagine that doesn't rank very high.
Obviously Marner's known as a playmaker, but I prefer the prototypical scoring winger. If you're making close to 11mill though, you should be both a goal scorer & playmaker.
the marner contract is too rich. he was no ufa, he was a rfa and most of the competitors of toronto signed their rfa's to a lesser number. point accepted 6.75m on a three year deal and will still be a rfa at the end of the contract.Oh no! That extra 1.3 million could go to Kyle Clifford instead!!!
The Marner contract is fine and people are
being obnoxious about it because the Leafs got beat in a freak off season.
not in top 3: kane, kucherov, stoneThat’s cool that you prefer that, but Mitch Marner is one of if not the best RW in the game and plays all situations and scores at above a PPG pace. So I think you’re wrong.
not in top 3: kane, kucherov, stone
the marner contract is too rich. he was no ufa, he was a rfa and most of the competitors of toronto signed their rfa's to a lesser number. point accepted 6.75m on a three year deal and will still be a rfa at the end of the contract.
you might not want to spend 1.3 million on clifford, but you can't save 1.3 million by not resigning kyle clifford. at the end of the day you need to fill out your roster and if you only be able to pay league minimum contracts for your bottom six players, you will have a bottom bottom six.
When your top dman is Hronek and your blue chip goalscorer is zadina who has only disappointed so far then yeah you take the elite player. This is ridiculous.Am I missing something. Is Marner at 11M AAV really worth their top dman and a bluechip goalscorer prospect?
kane has just finished the fifth year of his 8 year contract and so far is better than ppg. his doing fine.You think Kane is going to be better over the length of that contract?
Also if these are the top 3 wingers. Marner's contract is extremely fair given his age and theirs when they signed their contracts.
point plays the more valuable position. he is the 1c of one of the best teams in the nhl. tampa moved their captain stamkos to the wing because of him and he is paid more than 4 million less than marner. toronto's salary structure is actually the main issue.Tampa has a different salary structure and I don’t think Point is as good at his position as Marner.