Marchand Refuses to fight Against Eller

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  1. Ogrezilla

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    so like I said, the league sucks :laugh: It's in a ****ty middle ground where they won't enforce the rules, except for the ones that prevent the players from enforcing the rules :laugh:
     
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    Eller is trying to take their best player off the ice at a crucial time in the game, and gets declined.

    News at 11?
     
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    Marchand being a *****???

    Shocking. :sarcasm:
     
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    I wouldn’t agree with, “no matter what Marchand does”. He’s done seriously dumb things.
     
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    As a Caps fan I would be more upset if this involved the Penguins but since its the Bruins its not that big of a deal. Everytime you check the schedule and you see the Bruins are on there you know its a guaranteed 2 points.
     
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    Football players don't play in confined spaces with knives on their feet, clubs in their hands and malice in their black hearts.

    And for more than 150 years, hockey players have decided that when beefs occur the honorable thing to do is square off, get consent, and go under very very well defined expectations of conduct.

    I know 150 years doesn't really compare to your hypothetical of how it should be especially when the comparable is a completely different sport like football.
     
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    You mean a 5 min major for fighting? That enforcement of the rules?
    Or the rules that have never existed that says we kick fighters out becuase football does?
     
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    Nah. They're amateurs to guys like Wilson.
     
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    The league could do no such thing becuase they are partners with the pa.

    If only we knew whether the players themselves want the opportunity to self police.

    I guess we will never know.

    Additionally I guess the owners COULD lock the players out over fighting. Have you ever seen what the customers do in nhl arenas when a fight breaks out?

    Again it's a complete mystery that will likely never be solved.
     
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    Nothing new here, they're the Bruins, they have always been yellow like their jersey. They fight when it's a garantee they're gonna win. Typical bully mentality.

    :D

    :popcorn:
     
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    Yeah, consent. And if a guy doesn't consent? Apparently people get mad.

    And seriously, what do skates have to do with it? :Laugh: knives on their feet :laugh:
     
  12. Ogrezilla

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    I'm not saying kick fighters out. I'm saying enforce the rules that get broken in the first place, resulting in the need for a fight.
     
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    I love the idea that the unwritten, unspoken rules were very well defined and consistent throughout 150 years. If a rule doesn't get written down, it's not important and can be dispensed with the moment it's inconvenient. This is how the code worked.

    I watched hockey in that era. The code of conduct was that if the other team did anything you didn't like you were allowed to do anything you wanted, for as many games or years as you wanted. The code was that if you thought the other team broke the code, you didn't have to follow the code; and teams would enter games believing the other team had already broken the code. The code did not exist to prevent violence but to justify it.

    I think it's lovely when people who care about honor, order, respect and fidelity get addicted to bloodsport culture and lose the ability to discern anarchy from justice. Justice means you're right because you're right. The code means you're right if you're strong enough to overpower resistance. The code cannot punish wickedness, only weakness.
     
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    You don't take liberties, you have very very little to worry about.

    How is that bad again?

    You do take liberties? Your reticence might be noted, but it need not be respected

    ( you know how Marchand forced it on eller, that's what it looks like)
     
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    I hate Marchand for what it's worth.

    And the line is so blurred on what is a liberty these days. Are you allowed to make a big clean hit without fighting? You used to have to fight for touching Gretzky.
     
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    Yes in a game played in confined spaces at speed by men encouraged to slam into each other, a whistle is all that is needed to squash each and every beef.

    It's amazing we haven't solved the middle east problem with a whistle.
     
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    Forcing a guy who wants nothing to do with you to fight, that's a pretty easy line to see if it's crossed.
     
  18. Ogrezilla

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    The confined space really means nothing. Other Sports have contact too. If a whistle doesn't work, suspend them.
     
  19. Ogrezilla

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    And forcing him to fight is the obvious punishment for a crime such as forcing someone to fight :laugh: you can't make this kind of logic up :laugh:
     
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    What a chicken

    Larsy will whoop him Super Bowl Sunday rematch

    Get over the 7-0 taunt Broons fans

    Pappy always said ‘if you don’t want to be taunted don’t be down 7-o’

    Caps are the champs !!!
     
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    Yes it is. So we’re clear.
     
  22. Ogrezilla

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    Also smart though.
     
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    Brad Marchand is probably the complete opposite of an honorable player so to expect him to abide by any sort of "code" at all is hysterical.
     
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    No allowing one guy to force the issue and then giving him the option to decline is sooooo much more equitable.

    Everyone is equal, its just that some are more equal than others, I guess.
     
  25. Ogrezilla

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    What I'm saying is that allowing it the first time is the problem.
     
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