I don't think bust is what most people are saying. More like drafting Brian Boyle at #9. Is that a bust? Relative to draft position, maybe.
Still more bold than predicting a top 10 draft pick develops into a good player.
I don't think bust is what most people are saying. More like drafting Brian Boyle at #9. Is that a bust? Relative to draft position, maybe.
I don't think bust is what most people are saying. More like drafting Brian Boyle at #9. Is that a bust? Relative to draft position, maybe.
I hate the Brian Boyle comparison a ton. Brian Boyle has way less talent than Michael Rasmussen. It is just bad, especially at the same respective points in their hockey career.
After Rasmussen's draft +1 year, his thread on the prospects section of this forum becomes an all-you-can-eat crow buffet with many posters going back a year and editing their posts to avoid admitting fallibility.
The bigger question is:A good +1 season is great and all, but Larkin had one of the best +1 seasons development-wise I've seen and he put up a whopping 32 pts last year.
I'm hoping he has a great +1 season, specifically in the assist (primary assist at ES) dept, even though he wasn't my preferred pick (had ~5 guys ranked ahead of him).
But until he proves it at the NHL level, shouldn't expect anyone to eat any crow.
Can you explain why you think this? Boyle was also drafted in the first round and scored 62 pts in 70 games in the AHL. Sure he's not high-skill in the NHL but it's not like he never showed any skill in lower leagues.
Haven't Wings fans been hoping for a boom or bust player?
As for people like myself who support a disappointing pick eating crow -- I'd like to think that we are doing so already, paying for our hopes in advance. Vilardi was the popular pick, many here including myself are fairly certain that he will succeed, and I would have loved it if the Wings selected Vilardi, but they chose Rasmussen. I've made my peace with the pick, even if he turns out to be a bust; gambling on a high skill, dedicated young man like Rasmussen, with what he could become, is worth taking a flyer on.
Yeah, but I don't think that's what Rasmussen is. Not at all, really. That's what someone like Suzuki or Liljegren were in this draft class, IMO.
I think Rasmussen is a high floor, lower ceiling guy. Safe bet to be at least a bottom 6er with his size, but I really don't see the skills to be more than a 2nd liner, barring some kind of explosion in his playmaking.
Getzlaf had .55 assists per game in his draft season which isn't that off from Rasmussen with .46 assists per game in his draft season. But Getzlaf had a huge jump to .95 assists per game in his +1 season. If Rasmussen showed similar progress we could be "cooking with oil", but I'm skeptical he's able to do that since his primary assist production at ES was alarmingly low. We will have to see. That's the biggest X factor to me about him. I like his goal scoring potential just fine.
Well if you think he is highly skilled, that's understandable, but that's the whole point of contention here.
I hate the Brian Boyle comparison a ton. Brian Boyle has way less talent than Michael Rasmussen. It is just bad, especially at the same respective points in their hockey career.
As is often the case, it's not meant to be taken as a pure 1 to 1. More a point of describing a player of similar stature who carved out a career as 3rd liner. The worry is that the pick has that fate, which wouldn't be ideal for that position selected. Is that a bust? I mean, not of Yakupov level by any stretch.
Personally, I'd be OK if he was anywhere near Hanzal. This is the #9 pick, after all, not a golden ticket. The way you talk about him, I guess Getzlaf is the dream?
Nick Jensen will have a breakout year. Will be considered one of our best d-man.
Larkin gets 65 points
Mantha scores 30 goals
AA has a great year with more minutes and is packaged for a top 3 defenseman.
The bigger question is:
If he doesn't pan out, will the ones defending the pick now eat anything? Doubt it. There seems to be a bit of amnesia with regards to that. Even when posters can point to actual unedited posts making predictions and taking positions, it's cast as just unprincipled Holland bashing.