Lets talk about William Nylander.

[djdev]

Obviously Nylander was going to get exposed in a series like this. When you are a soft, perimeter player, who lacks fortitude you will get exposed for what you are in this series. There is little doubt that this kid is as soft as they come. I don’t even understand how anyone can defend someone who plays scared like Nylander. He is a coward.

lol the irony of somebody calling somebody else a "coward" from the safety of the internet, in what one can only assume is their moms basement..

 

[thewave]

Just like Kessel, another playoff ghost.

He may get thicker and become a pain in the ass down the line. I think his old man was like that. Marner is kinda likely to become more like Kadri, no idea why I say that but I could see him putting size on and just being more of a pest. It's not like hope is lost or anything, but we need guys that put it on the line and not what they are doing now.

 

[pengdeng12]

It doesn't mean much when you are down by 4 goals. Who exactly were they playing against that was desperate to get the puck?

.... we were better for the 10-15 mins. Just bad bounces.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Just like Kessel, another playoff ghost.

Kessel scored 23 points in 25 games in last years playoffs.... 22 points in 24 games the year before that. He's almost PPG in playoffs.

 

[dosages]

I've seen him grind along the boards harder in the regular season. sucks man... hope he's looking at his phone tonight and seeing everyone talk about him while his good friend shat in our mouth with 6 points

 

[7even]

Kessel scored 23 points in 25 games in last years playoffs.... 22 points in 24 games the year before that. He's almost PPG in playoffs.

Yeah that was my point. Go into the post I quoted, change "Nylander" to "Kessel" and it reads like something that's been necrobumped from 2012.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Yeah that was my point. Go into the post I quoted, change "Nylander" to "Kessel" and it reads like something that's been necrobumped from 2012.

Oh, Ohhhhh.

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

Just like Kessel, another playoff ghost.

Except Kessel is not a playoff ghost and has very good production throuout his playoff career.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

And all you guys think on this board nylander is gonna get paid the same as pastrnak.. know nothing.

Hes in another level.

Based on this series so far, Matthews/Marner/Nylander all going to make 5 mill or less.


^ A clear exaggeration but point remains, these 3 NEED to step it up.

 

[thewave]

Kessel scored 23 points in 25 games in last years playoffs.... 22 points in 24 games the year before that. He's almost PPG in playoffs.

He was productive, always productive. I thought we were talking about the lack of presence. Kessel is a threat in short spurts not someone that sustains pressure. Nylander sort of has just been, well, skating around and doing nothing at all.

 

[AlmightyPO]

.... we were better for the 10-15 mins. Just bad bounces.

I agree we had some bad bounces, but we still lost 7-3. Hard to argue anyone on our team played well when you lose by that much in the playoffs.

 

[7even]

Except Kessel is not a playoff ghost and has very good production throuout his playoff career.

Two posts up, m8.

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

Two posts up, m8.

When I replied I only read up to your post. Any way that post only points what he did with Pens but if you go back to our own playoffs he had 6 points in 7 games. He has flaws in his game but you can never point out that he is not productive.

 

[Apotheosis]

He looked better after being a C on his own line. Boston isn't letting Matthews+Nylander do their own thing.

 

[Stephen]

You would think he has the skillset to match up with David Pastrnak, but not sure what it'll take to get him there.

 

[MattySnipes]

Controlling the puck for nearly 70% of the time your on the ice is incredibly impressive. And pretty strong evidence to the contrary that he played poorly.

The Bruins top guys lit up weak Toronto goaltending (including gettingto face McBackup) They played well, but let’s not pretend they didn’t get a bit of luck On their side.

Leafs came to the play. If Kappy puts that one inch to the left its 1-1. But that's a HUGE 'IF'

No matter how you look at it, Leafs got their goals and fancy posession stats in 'garbage time'

No team in the playoffs is gonna play with the same desperation once being spotted 4 f***ing goals.

Your best players have to be your best players. Forget Matthews, Nylander & Marner. What about Rielly, Marleau, Kadri, Hainsey, Andersen?

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

You would think he has the skillset to match up with David Pastrnak, but not sure what it'll take to get him there.

The word is 'GRIT'. You need the determination to take a hit to get the job done in the playoffs. I hope he fills out his frame a bit more and learns from this series. He is still very young and there will be many chances for him in the future.

 

[AlmightyPO]

Leafs came to the play. If Kappy puts that one inch to the left its 1-1. But that's a HUGE 'IF'

No matter how you look at it, Leafs got their goals and fancy posession stats in 'garbage time'

No team in the playoffs is gonna play with the same desperation once being spotted 4 ****ing goals.

Your best players have to be your best players. Forget Matthews, Nylander & Marner. What about Rielly, Marleau, Kadri, Hainsey, Andersen?

I agree, but this thread is about Nylander...hence the discussion about his play. Only silver lining to this terrible playoffs so far is that his contract-value is likely only dropping.

 

[MattySnipes]

I agree, but this thread is about Nylander...hence the discussion about his play. Only silver lining to this terrible playoffs so far is that his value is only dropping.

Yeah exactly, sorry I got carried away lol

 

[Legion34]

Pastrnak gets 6.6 x 6.

Good luck trying to get a 7 million contract now

 

[MattySnipes]

The Leafs coach, who seemed to grow more comfortable with Nylander at centre, still said this about him in the role in mid-March, just before Matthews returned from injury and Nylander slid back to right wing: “It's never a skill set issue for him, it's your determination to play without the puck, it's your puck pressure in D-zone, it's your ability to sort things out. And some nights the matchups are easier than others.”

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

None of Marner or Nylander should getmore than 7. Even Nathan ****ing MacKinnon makes 6.3 mil. McDavid making 12.5 isn't bad because year after year he is on the top of scoring race. I also think Matthews will be overpaid if he makes more than what Draisaitl makes. 8.5 is a good contract.

We have to remember one thing that these guys are RFAs and even in arbitration they won't warrant 8 and 10 mil per. Just because disastrous organizations keep overpaying their top players doesn't mean we should follow that and pay more.

Boat for Nylander is almost sailed and contracts for Matthews and Marner won't look pretty if this continues next season as well.

 

[Menzinger]

You would think he has the skillset to match up with David Pastrnak, but not sure what it'll take to get him there.

Pasta doesn’t have a Bergeron to face against and Rask hasn’t let in as many easy goals as Andersen did this game.

That’s not to say Pasta hasn’t been playing very well, but I think a lot of folks here need to take a step back and look at context more here

 

[Menzinger]

None of Marner or Nylander should getmore than 7. Even Nathan ****ing MacKinnon makes 6.3 mil. McDavid making 12.5 isn't bad because year after year he is on the top of scoring race. I also think Matthews will be overpaid if he makes more than what Draisaitl makes. 8.5 is a good contract.

We have to remember one thing that these guys are RFAs and even in arbitration they won't warrant 8 and 10 mil per. Just because disastrous organizations keep overpaying their top players doesn't mean we should follow that and pay more.

Boat for Nylander is almost sailed and contracts for Matthews and Marner won't look pretty if this continues next season as well.

If management is making contract decisions based off of just 2 games, we have the wrong people leading this organization.

 

[hfman]

highly talented player but weak.