Player Discussion: Leo Komarov

[Spybot]

I can't name a cup winning team which had their best offensive player flanked by a "defensive" specialist who at his best is a net zero. Unfortunate Trotz couldn't find a way to put together a lineup that didn't have him next to Barzal.

 

[MJF]

Are you his burner account? I’m glad he is a nice person. The fact that he couldn’t do anything with the puck is a large reason for 0 offense

A reason? Yes. A large reason? No.

Leo Komarov didn't score but his being on the first line is not what kept ineffective Jordan Eberle out on the perimeter as much as he was. Eberle did too many slot fly-bys only to plant himself on the outside circles. Glad he scored in Game 6 but where the f*** was that for the better part of 5 weeks??? Glad Tito scored the winner in Game 6 but where the f*** was that this series??? Where the f*** was Brock Nelson this series??? Josh Bailey??? That's 2 lines of guys relied on to bring some offense held off the scoresheet. Komarov affected all that? No way. He certainly didn't cause those guys to go 1-17 on the power play for f***s sake.

There's a lot of second guessing to be done in the coming days but the bottom line is 1 role player did not cause the offense to dry up.

 

[Tres Peleches]

A reason? Yes. A large reason? No.

Leo Komarov didn't score but his being on the first line is not what kept ineffective Jordan Eberle out on the perimeter as much as he was. Eberle did too many slot fly-bys only to plant himself on the outside circles. Glad he scored in Game 6 but where the f*** was that for the better part of 5 weeks??? Glad Tito scored the winner in Game 6 but where the f*** was that this series??? Where the f*** was Brock Nelson this series??? Josh Bailey??? That's 2 lines of guys relied on to bring some offense held off the scoresheet. Komarov affected all that? No way. He certainly didn't cause those guys to go 1-17 on the power play for f***s sake.

There's a lot of second guessing to be done in the coming days but the bottom line is 1 role player did not cause the offense to dry up.

Having a player like Leo on first line allows teams to focus heavily on Barzal and Eberle. You need someone who brings at least a modicum of offensive ability to the top line

Honestly, that’s more Trotz’s fault for putting Leo in that position. I get playing him there when you’re tied or in the lead, but the SECOND you need a goal, Leo becomes a huge detriment on that line

 

[MJF]

Having a player like Leo on first line allows teams to focus heavily on Barzal and Eberle. You need someone who brings at least a modicum of offensive ability to the top line

Honestly, that’s more Trotz’s fault for putting Leo in that position. I get playing him there when you’re tied or in the lead, but the SECOND you need a goal, Leo becomes a huge detriment on that line

If that's the case then it's up to Eberle to battle for the inches a little bit more. Can you honestly tell me he did that? We saw what he can do when he decides to drive forward towards the slot.

 

[Tres Peleches]

If that's the case then it's up to Eberle to battle for the inches a little bit more. Can you honestly tell me he did that? We saw what he can do when he decides to drive forward towards the slot.

100% but we know what kinda player Eberle is, and he ain’t that kinda player which is why, in a perfect world, he gets shipped out and we replace him with Palmieri

Regardless, at least Eberle brings SOMETHING to the top line, Komarov brings nothing when it comes to scoring. And when you’re down a goal, you need to score

 

[MJF]

100% but we know what kinda player Eberle is, and he ain’t that kinda player which is why, in a perfect world, he gets shipped out and we replace him with Palmieri

Regardless, at least Eberle brings SOMETHING to the top line, Komarov brings nothing when it comes to scoring. And when you’re down a goal, you need to score

What good is Eberle bringing SOMETHING to the top line when he won't put himself in position to use it? At the end of the day he was as big a zero as Komarov.

At least Leo isn't the one trick pony Jordan Eberle is.

 

[Spybot]

What good is Eberle bringing SOMETHING to the top line when he won't put himself in position to use it?

I'd say that's something that could be Komarov's "fault". Komarov not being any kind of offensive threat allows the defense to cheat a little and focus more on Barzal and Eberle. Not to mention whenever Komarov has the puck, everyone knows what his job is - give it to Barzal or Eberle, because he can't do anything with it. Eberle is no showstopper, but having another serious threat on that line probably gives him more space to work with.

 

[Tres Peleches]

What good is Eberle bringing SOMETHING to the top line when he won't put himself in position to use it? At the end of the day he was as big a zero as Komarov.

At least Leo isn't the one trick pony Jordan Eberle is.

Eberle is a player who can excel with time and space. Problem is he needs other players to get that for him

He’s a flawed player, but having Leo on the top line did not do him any favors since he had no time and space since teams don’t have to focus on stopping the offensive juggernaut that is Leo

 

[MJF]

Eberle is a player who can excel with time and space. Problem is he needs other players to get that for him

He’s a flawed player, but having Leo on the top line did not do him any favors since he had no time and space since teams don’t have to focus on stopping the offensive juggernaut that is Leo

Wow. Jordan Eberle sure comes with a lot of conditions, doesn’t he?

 

[Tres Peleches]

Wow. Jordan Eberle sure comes with a lot of conditions, doesn’t he?

Yeah, which is why I’d be fine if he gets jettisoned this summer

 

[MJF]

Yeah, which is why I’d be fine if he gets jettisoned this summer

Amen. I agree with what you said about Palmieri bringing Eberle's production while playing with an edge. That's the guy we should be pointing at to keep.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

The only way Leo comes back I can see is if Casey doesn't resign with the Isles and one of Cal or Matty are taken by Seattle. This would not be good for the Isles. The ID line is a key fixture for this team. Leo would excel on the 4th line, he is a fine PK specialist and defensive player, and he is one of the Isles key hitters. So a lot will depend on what happens to the ID line this summer.

 

[BMOK33]

The only way Leo comes back I can see is if Casey doesn't resign with the Isles and one of Cal or Matty are taken by Seattle. This would not be good for the Isles. The ID line is a key fixture for this team. Leo would excel on the 4th line, he is a fine PK specialist and defensive player, and he is one of the Isles key hitters. So a lot will depend on what happens to the ID line this summer.

Someone has to be dumb enough to offer Casey 4/16 you’d think

 

[Duanesutter12]

Yeah, which is why I’d be fine if he gets jettisoned this summer

Listening to Trotz's presser today he mentioned Eberle as one of the leaders. Kind of surprised me and made me think he's one of Trotz's boys. I'd definitely rather have Palmieri than him but we'll see what happens.....

 

[Duanesutter12]

Someone has to be dumb enough to offer Casey 4/16 you’d think

I don't think it will happen. Two years ago, with a cap consistently going up I could see that type of contract but not today.

 

[Duanesutter12]

The only way Leo comes back I can see is if Casey doesn't resign with the Isles and one of Cal or Matty are taken by Seattle. This would not be good for the Isles. The ID line is a key fixture for this team. Leo would excel on the 4th line, he is a fine PK specialist and defensive player, and he is one of the Isles key hitters. So a lot will depend on what happens to the ID line this summer.

How long can they continue to run into people for a full season + playoffs? I love them but I can't see them doing it very much longer.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Someone has to be dumb enough to offer Casey 4/16 you’d think

Yes Dumbass would, but luckily he already is in a self made Cap crunch, agents have already taken him to the cleaners.

 

[JKP]

Yes Dumbass would, but luckily he already is in a self made Cap crunch, agents have already taken him to the cleaners.

As soon as he had to type a 0 into his spreadsheet for the cap escalator, he was toast.

 

[notDatsyuk]

A lot of teams have that kind of player on their top two lines - one who forechecks, battles on the boards and in the corners, and frees up the puck for the guys who are supposed to put it in the net.

Komarov and Martin were the only guys who would consistently get in the slot when we had the puck, screening the goalie and tying up a defenceman. Is it their fault the other players can't get the puck through? Having someone screen the goalie doesn't do any good if you let their players block your shots.

 

[Spybot]

A lot of teams have that kind of player on their top two lines - one who forechecks, battles on the boards and in the corners, and frees up the puck for the guys who are supposed to put it in the net.

Not really. Which successful/cup winning team has a player like Komarov on their top line? Unless "that kind of player" means "like him, but actually much better at everything".

 

[Costigan77]

A reason? Yes. A large reason? No.

Leo Komarov didn't score but his being on the first line is not what kept ineffective Jordan Eberle out on the perimeter as much as he was. Eberle did too many slot fly-bys only to plant himself on the outside circles. Glad he scored in Game 6 but where the f*** was that for the better part of 5 weeks??? Glad Tito scored the winner in Game 6 but where the f*** was that this series??? Where the f*** was Brock Nelson this series??? Josh Bailey??? That's 2 lines of guys relied on to bring some offense held off the scoresheet. Komarov affected all that? No way. He certainly didn't cause those guys to go 1-17 on the power play for f***s sake.

There's a lot of second guessing to be done in the coming days but the bottom line is 1 role player did not cause the offense to dry up.

Like what are you talking about?

the argument is what Eberle didn’t do? Komarowv hit. Awesome.

He was a player that literally no one had to focus on. And he proved it in spades. So glad he hit. He also made that line 5 on 4.

Blame Eberle. Lol I saw that dude adapt and play complete defensive structure. That line was basically a pawn unless Barzal went into superstar mode.

Eberle had 11 pts in this run. Komarov 3. Please keep telling me how great he was.

 

[Costigan77]

A lot of teams have that kind of player on their top two lines - one who forechecks, battles on the boards and in the corners, and frees up the puck for the guys who are supposed to put it in the net.

Komarov and Martin were the only guys who would consistently get in the slot when we had the puck, screening the goalie and tying up a defenceman. Is it their fault the other players can't get the puck through? Having someone screen the goalie doesn't do any good if you let their players block your shots.

to compare MM and komarov is ridiculous. MAtt Martin was playing against every teams top line. Komarov was a hinderance on his. If the “identity line” didn’t need to stay together, i would have wished for clutter or martin to be on that line instead of Leo. Hell i would have rather zajac

 

[MJF]

Like what are you talking about?

the argument is what Eberle didn’t do? Komarowv hit. Awesome.

He was a player that literally no one had to focus on. And he proved it in spades. So glad he hit. He also made that line 5 on 4.

Blame Eberle. Lol I saw that dude adapt and play complete defensive structure. That line was basically a pawn unless Barzal went into superstar mode.

Eberle had 11 pts in this run. Komarov 3. Please keep telling me how great he was.

Eberle went MIA for the entire Bruins series. He was pretty quiet this series also.

If you read before you bluster, you'll see I mentioned the entire 2nd line by name. But by all means go ahead and obsess about Leo Komarov killing the first line.

 

[CupHolders]

Listening to Trotz's presser today he mentioned Eberle as one of the leaders. Kind of surprised me and made me think he's one of Trotz's boys. I'd definitely rather have Palmieri than him but we'll see what happens.....

By my recollection, Trotz has never benched or cut Eberle’s ice time short.

I’ve been critical of Eberle, because I think his lack strength compromises possession on the boards and limits his effectiveness in producing in tight spaces.

But I do think he works hard and has been positionally sound. At the end of the day coaches will ALWAYS favor players who play a positionally sound game as dictated by the coaches structure.

Right or wrong, ALL professional coaches (even Doug Weight) believe they know how to win, so why wouldn’t they choose a player who follows directions over a wild card who flies off the cuff.

 

[xECK29x]

Looks like he is being loaned to SKA, though a mutual contract termination would be peak Lou