Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 4-2

[LeafsHome]

People keep saying we're missing important pieces...so are Boston and Tampa. They keep winning.

I just don't think we're as good as the standings say.

Our important pieces have been missing all season.

 

[Critical13]

Our important pieces have been missing all season.

Boston has lost their entire defence + Bergeron. Tampa is playing their back up for a month.

I'm not buying the excuse. Way too lose in our own zone, same old problem.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Boston has lost their entire defence + Bergeron. Tampa is playing their back up for a month.

I'm not buying the excuse. Way too lose in our own zone, same old problem.

Uhh tampas goalie has been out for about a week now, same with Bergeron. We're also still ahead of Boston.

 

[Zybalto]

People keep saying we're missing important pieces...so are Boston and Tampa. They keep winning.

I just don't think we're as good as the standings say.

Putting aside the fact the Leafs missing players may be more important and have been gone a helluva lot longer....

All due respect to Tampa but the Panthers and Blackhawks are not very good team to gauge where you are at with your injury woes. They are abysmal defensively and showed it.
Boston has some real injury issues but Halak isnt going to post a .940 save % this year to keep saving them.

 

[Trapper]

It’s the last two games. Marner has been great all season. Unrealistic expectations that he or any player will be great every game

Don’t think it’s unreal expectations.
Just an observation.
Expecting 2 points or goals every game is unreal. Expecting a certain style of play isn’t.

 

[jrgtml67]

No matthews and willie is starting to catch up with them.

In one game? You know what the issue was tonight. Bad d coverage and then the last call on JT didn't help but their PP stunk. However that D coverage turned its head on our PP. That JT was on fire early Bobo saved the day and not that I like to blame the refs but wow zero calls for us..minus the Hyman call and the top late PP. Jt hooked in front alone no call, slash on Johnsson lots of stuff. But in the end it was sloppy D. Mainly by Hainsey..again and Rielly gets a mulligan.

 

[CelticDruid]

He is playing with **** offensive linemates right now, similar to Kapanen prior to inserting him into the top 6.

Don't buy that excuse at all. It's not always the other players fault, he is a fourth line player at best.

 

[BTP]

People keep saying we're missing important pieces...so are Boston and Tampa. They keep winning.

I just don't think we're as good as the standings say.

Uhh, we’ve been winning. It’s just 2 games

 

[Critical13]

Don’t think it’s unreal expectations.
Just an observation.
Expecting 2 points or goals every game is unreal. Expecting a certain style of play isn’t.

Agreeed with this. I don't expect to win every game, but to have our zone be a clown show all season isn't great.

 

[Mr Hockey]

missed the game, and we lost again, are our most knowledgeable fans calling for a coaching change as usual? lol

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

People are acting like it was a disastrous game when really, the script was flipped from Monday night. Andersen was a beast and tonight it was Bobrovsky's turn. The better team lost both games so 1-1-0 vs the BJs is appropriate

Yeah being down 2-0 early sucked, but I thought we played an excellent first period and could have had a few more goals.

 

[NiL8r87]

We were the better team, relax for now dudes.

 

[Zybalto]

missed the game, and we lost again, are our most knowledgeable fans calling for a coaching change as usual? lol

Babs and Torts both pretty much said the same thing post game. Won the game we shoulda lost and lost the game we shoulda won.....

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Also, Hyman is such a play killer. He is fine behind the goal line, but pretty useless elsewhere in the offensive zone. His blind, weak passes to the front of the net are painful to watch.

 

[weems]

Haha on the postgame radio show.

Savard was talking, and he goes "and Babcock's son Hyman"

 

[hockeyes]

Hyman does a lot of things right. The only problem is he gets overplayed and on the first line for some reason. I will take Hyman 10/10 days over Brown or Goat or any other useless plug though, he is a good hockey player, just doesn't know how to score.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Hyman does a lot of things right. The only problem is he gets overplayed and on the first line for some reason. I will take Hyman 10/10 days over Brown or Goat or any other useless plug though, he is a good hockey player, just doesn't know how to score.

And that's a massive problem when you are with two gifted players who are always creating chances.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

Also, Hyman is such a play killer. He is fine behind the goal line, but pretty useless elsewhere in the offensive zone. His blind, weak passes to the front of the net are painful to watch.

Agree. He gives a lot of effort but lacks in skill with top 6 forwards. Has limited vision offensively.

 

[Mr Hockey]

The season is just a primer for us to lay a smackdown on the Bruins and Tampa in the playoffs! its all good

 

[weems]

I'll preface by saying I like Hyman, appreciate his skillset and understand the logic behind him playing on that line.

But if we're going to give him a plus everytime he forechecks and retrieves a puck then we also need to give him a minus everytime he kills a rush in the neutral zone, when offensive zone sequences die once he touchs the puck or when he fails to convert on point blank scoring chances.

You then have to figure out if the plus's of his forechecking prowess and physicality outweighs his inability to do anything with the puck and how much it stimies Marner/Tavares in certain situations.

I can see both sides to the argument but the thing that's pretty frustrating is that we haven't even seen these combo's Matthews/Nylander or Marner/Tavares with someone else for a prolonged sample size. Why not at least try something else out and if it doesn't work you can tell everyone that the original logic was always the most EV play.

Just for arguments sake, maybe you put Johnsson with the other two and although he wont be the forechecker that Hyman is, the line becomes vastly more dangerous in the neutral zone off the rush and he finishs at a waaaaayyyy higher clip when given high danger opportunities that Tavares and Marner create.

I like the player but would like to see something else at least tried and if it doesn't work you always can go back.

 

[Nineteen67]

Uhh tampas goalie has been out for about a week now, same with Bergeron. We're also still ahead of Boston.

The Leafs should get a PO spot. Should. No guarantees as it looks they will likely be in a fight for positioning with Mtl, Bos, and Buffalo. Goes without saying, but they must do well against those teams.

There’s a lot of hockey left, but I honestly think they could beat Montreal or the Rangers in a playoff series so it would be ideal if they could manage to match up against one of those two.

 

[Cleetus]

Haha on the postgame radio show.

Savard was talking, and he goes "and Babcock's son Hyman"

he probably reads in this section lol

 

[Superstar]

Boston has lost their entire defence + Bergeron. Tampa is playing their back up for a month.

I'm not buying the excuse. Way too lose in our own zone, same old problem.

Please explain 7-5 without two thirds of our top line in Matthews and Nylander. You would think we suck so bad that it's 0-12.

 

[member 262271]

We could've lost games on the California road trip, due to fatigue but we didn't. I knew some losses were coming, they're playing a lot of games of late.

 

[Trapper]

Agreeed with this. I don't expect to win every game, but to have our zone be a clown show all season isn't great.

It seems to me when you make a statement about what you see people love the immediate, well he’s been great all year statement. Like this was a personal attack.
How dare you. Ok, he’s been great all year but in the last little bit I’ve noticed....
Nothing that won’t correct.