Confirmed Trade: [LAK/TOR] Jake Muzzin for 2019 1st round pick, Sean Durzi, and Carl Grundstrom - Part II

[Kamiccolo]

Just saying I remember when Leivo scored 2 goals in his first few games as well and the thread went nuts. Grundstrom is going to be a good top 6 forward for a long time, LA got a good one, but no one thinks that 2 goals 2 shots is sustainable right?

He'll be a 50-60 point forward with size and a strong work ethic. A key piece to any top 6. Leafs are already loaded with forward talent. Didn't everyone say to trade some of that for D help? And now people are shocked when they do?

Leafs are loaded with offensive talent, this isn't even an unknown fact. Muzzin has been up and down but he has also basically played with every Dman on the roster plus is adjusting to a new system. His playoff experience on the defense is where his value will be. He can play top 4 minutes when it counts.

 

[Fat Elvis]

I think it's funny that some fans need to "win" a trade. Hopefully this is a good example of both teams benefiting from the deal. Win-Win! It's not a bad thing.

Being a Kings fan, I really hope Muzzin works out for the Leafs and hopefully Grunstrom, Durzi and the 1st make LA a better team going forward.

 

[Szechwan]

Great, the guy ahead of him on that list, Mac Hollowell, is also a Leafs draft pick and was signed last week.

Toronto Maple Leafs sign Mac Hollowell entry level contract

Good to know being on that list puts him in good company. I can only assume being AHEAD of Durzi on that list puts him in even better company.

This post really made me roll my eyes.

 

[joe dirte]

This post really made me roll my eyes.

Oh? I thought it was a rather good reply to a Leafs troll who posted a list with a guy that the Leafs traded at number 3, as evidence the Leafs screwed up, and likely had no idea that the Leafs also had the guy at number 2.....

 

[garyturner3]

Sean Durzi was voted one of the top offensive defencemen in the OHL by Coaches. The names on the list put him in good company. He could be the sleeper of this deal. Futa also mentioned they did a lot of homework on him with a Kings scout connection to Durzi prior to the trade.

Best Offensive Defenseman
East
1. Ryan Merkley
2. Thomas Harley
3. Noel Hoefenmayer & Matt Brassard
West
1. Evan Bouchard & Adam Boqvist
2. Mac Hollowell
3. Bode Wilde & Sean Durzi

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[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh? I thought it was a rather good reply to a Leafs troll who posted a list with a guy that the Leafs traded at number 3, as evidence the Leafs screwed up, and likely had no idea that the Leafs also had the guy at number 2.....

Where did he say the Leafs screwed up? Maybe he's pointing out that Durzi is performing well in juniors? You seem to be a bit insecure.

 

[joe dirte]

Just saying I remember when Leivo scored 2 goals in his first few games as well and the thread went nuts. Grundstrom is going to be a good top 6 forward for a long time, LA got a good one, but no one thinks that 2 goals 2 shots is sustainable right?

He'll be a 50-60 point forward with size and a strong work ethic. A key piece to any top 6. Leafs are already loaded with forward talent. Didn't everyone say to trade some of that for D help? And now people are shocked when they do?

Leafs are loaded with offensive talent, this isn't even an unknown fact. Muzzin has been up and down but he has also basically played with every Dman on the roster plus is adjusting to a new system. His playoff experience on the defense is where his value will be. He can play top 4 minutes when it counts.

I'd say that's actually optomistic. I think he's probably more of a third liner with a bit of grit. 30 or 40 points at most.

 

[Szechwan]

Oh? I thought it was a rather good reply to a Leafs troll who posted a list with a guy that the Leafs traded at number 3, as evidence the Leafs screwed up, and likely had no idea that the Leafs also had the guy at number 2.....

From an outside perspective, there's nothing about his post that looks like he's trolling. He's literally just replying to someone who said Durzi wouldn't amount to much.

I think you're being a little oversensitive here.

 

[joe dirte]

Where did he say the Leafs screwed up? Maybe he's pointing out that Durzi is performing well in juniors? You seem to be a bit insecure.

you run around defending him a lot.

 

[hotpaws]

It was a steep price to pay at the time and the price looks even higher now . Muzzin has been up and down but he went to a completely different system so in fairness to him he needs a little more time to adjust .

He's a big plodding guy who adds much needed toughness when he plays aggressively which he hasn't consistently brought but our D sorely needed a boost and he's provided that .

would have much rather have tried to use the assets (plus) to acquire a rhd but who knows who was available and at what cost

 

[howkie]

Best prospect ever (Is this not how it is supposed be when a Leaf prospect switch to another club? )

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think it's funny that some fans need to "win" a trade. Hopefully this is a good example of both teams benefiting from the deal. Win-Win! It's not a bad thing.

Being a Kings fan, I really hope Muzzin works out for the Leafs and hopefully Grunstrom, Durzi and the 1st make LA a better team going forward.

With the exception of the NYI where everybody shit the bed Muzzin has been fantastic

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

you run around defending him a lot.

And you're constantly fishing for approval. "Winning brand of hockey." LOL.

 

[joe dirte]

From an outside perspective, there's nothing about his post that looks like he's trolling. He's literally just replying to someone who said Durzi wouldn't amount to much.

I think you're being a little oversensitive here.

uhh, no. He spends most his time here trolling Leaf fans.

Confirmed with Link: - Muzzin to Toronto for 2019 1st, Grundstrom, and rights to Durzi

Confirmed with Link: - Muzzin to Toronto for 2019 1st, Grundstrom, and rights to Durzi

Muzzin to Toronto for 2019 1st, Grundstrom, and rights to Durzi

Notice a trend? Muzzin is apparently a slow bum, and every player the Leafs traded for him "looks like they really got soemthing there". Trust me, this happens every day.

 

[joe dirte]

And you're looking constantly fishing for approval. "Winning brand of hockey." LOL.

How am I looking for approval?

I know the Leafs play an exciting brand of winning hockey, whether that gets you all worked up or not. so keep getting all rattled by it, it makes me smile. The fact that you don't approve, and get rattled, makes me smile more than your "approval".

 

[Kamiccolo]

I'd say that's actually optomistic. I think he's probably more of a third liner with a bit of grit. 30 or 40 points at most.

I am a big fan of his so maybe I am biased but I think he has the skill level to put up that kind of production if he is given skilled linemates. He won't drive a line and put that up but put him with a #1 C and a winger and he will compliment them well.

 

[Mats26]

Can a Leaf Fan give us a honest prospect ranking(for forwards) when he was on the leafs? Was he your top forward prospect at the time next to Bracco? 2nd?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Where did he say the Leafs screwed up? Maybe he's pointing out that Durzi is performing well in juniors? You seem to be a bit insecure.

Not worth the bother. Grundstrom has a terrific start to his NHL career, and you have some really insecure posters commenting that people should not talk about it. It is what it is. Let his posts speak for themselves.

 

[joe dirte]

I am a big fan of his so maybe I am biased but I think he has the skill level to put up that kind of production if he is given skilled linemates. He won't drive a line and put that up but put him with a #1 C and a winger and he will compliment them well.

That's cool. He's a decent young prospect, and the fact that he plays a gritty game is a nice bonus. Who knows, you could be right.

 

[joe dirte]

Not worth the bother. Grundstrom has a terrific start to his NHL career, and you have some really insecure posters commenting that people should not talk about it. It is what it is. Let his posts speak for themselves.

Why would I be insecure? The Leafs are at the top of the standings, playing an exciting, winning brand of hockey, carrying the flag for Ontario, and Canada.

 

[Szechwan]

And you're constantly fishing for approval. "Winning brand of hockey." LOL.

How am I looking for approval?

I know the Leafs play an exciting brand of winning hockey, whether that gets you all worked up or not. so keep getting all rattled by it, it makes me smile. The fact that you don't approve, and get rattled, makes me smile more than your "approval".

Sometimes I forget there's no age restriction in this place and I could very well be talking to a 14 year old.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Sometimes I forget there's no age restriction in this place and I could very well be talking to a 14 year old.

I was actually wondering if he had his Leafs jammies on as he typed that up.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Not worth the bother. Grundstrom has a terrific start to his NHL career, and you have some really insecure posters commenting that people should not talk about it. It is what it is. Let his posts speak for themselves.

That's not what anyone is saying. You are, like usual, trying to play both sides. You are in one comment raving about how good he is and then in the next refusing to give credit to the Leafs for their scouting and development.

If anything, you are derailing the thread.

 

[Rob Brown]

I was actually wondering if he had his Leafs jammies on as he typed that up.

I'm sure you never ever posted about how you were proud to be a Kings fan. Not ever.

 

[joe dirte]

I was actually wondering if he had his Leafs jammies on as he typed that up.

yep, sure did. And I was wearing them on Saturday when I watched them win yet another game. Things are looking good!!!!