Confirmed Trade: [LAK/TOR] Jake Muzzin for 2019 1st round pick, Sean Durzi, and Carl Grundstrom - Part II

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[Randy Randerson]

there's not much out there for Muzzin highlight reels

 

[ACC1224]

Seems like LeBrun was spot on with his thoughts on Muzzin's return.
King fans, not so much.

 

[LeafsNation75]

The only thing from this picture which is wrong is the #6 since it's retired by Toronto, so Muzzin needs to have a different one.

 

[The Great Weal]

there's not much out there for Muzzin highlight reels

 

[LeafsNation75]

 

[A1LeafNation]

Girardi is TBLs top pair RD. They don't have a good defence?

 

[JT Kreider]

Grundstrom is a great get for the Kings. I'm pretty shocked that the Leafs traded for him TBH. But I guess this was as good as it was going to get without having to give up Nylander or Kapanen.

 

[Michoulicious]

How much is it going to cost to dump Zaitsev 5y contract? By my scientific calculation, even with Gardiner/Hainsey gone, Leafs are 2 millions over next year with Muzzin in. Marleau has a full NMC.

They have to do it before July 1st ideally because then his NTC kicks in.

 

[Fishhead]

You're right. I shouldn't have called them his career numbers. I meant that those are his stats since 2014-15, his first regular season as a top-4 defenseman. He was a +18 and a +11 in his rookie and sophomore years in 2012-13 and 2013-14, respectively, both played on the 3rd pairing. You were right to correct me, but I don't think that those seasons are really relevant to discussion of whether he's a top-4 (let alone, top pairing) defenseman.

Well, take this year and last year then, when he's been a +18 at even strength, best among D on the team (Doughty is a +9). He's has better possession metrics than his teammates. He's the only regular defenseman who has been a + in expected goals. His QOC over that span is in line is barely below Doughty, he's had solid deployments while having a lower QOT. He's put up more points than Doughty at ES over the last season and a half, all this while playing 300 less minutes at ES.

That's a recent sample as you are going to get, and his numbers better than Doughty's in almost every facet. He put up a career high in points last year and has been fantastic this year. You aren't going to find much more relevant numbers than that, and those are top pairing numbers.

 

[LeafsNation75]

 

[Randy Randerson]

ha, that one I did find, just surprised that no one has cobbled together more of him

 

[PensandCaps]

No. For real, this is a very good move by the leafs. They'll get Muzzin for two playoff rounds.

A 1st and a prospect isn't much for a player like Muzzin.

 

[The Great Weal]

Girardi is TBLs top pair RD. They don't have a good defence?

Seriously?
Hedman, McDonagh, Stralman, Sergachev
vs
Reilly, Muzzin, Gardiner, Hainsey/Dermott

You tell me which group is better.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

How much is it going to cost to dump Zaitsev 5y contract? By my scientific calculation, even with Gardiner/Hainsey gone, Leafs are 2 millions over next year with Muzzin in. Marleau has a full NMC.

They have to do it before July 1st ideally because then his NTC kicks in.

That all taking into account of the rumored cap increase to $82-83 million? Ya either way though, Kapanens deal will be a tough one, even on a bridge.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Seems like a good trade

 

[axlrose87]

How much is it going to cost to dump Zaitsev 5y contract? By my scientific calculation, even with Gardiner/Hainsey gone, Leafs are 2 millions over next year with Muzzin in. Marleau has a full NMC.

They have to do it before July 1st ideally because then his NTC kicks in.

The leafs can move several guys to free up cap space in the offseason.
The list includes muzzin. If the leafs just want to use him for this year they can move him in the offseason and recoup most of what they gave up.

 

[Michoulicious]

That all taking into account of the rumored cap increase to $82-83 million? Ya either way though, Kapanens deal will be a tough one, even on a bridge.

Yeah, I'm at 81,275 M before resigning Kapanen.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Seriously?
Hedman, McDonagh, Stralman, Sergachev
vs
Reilly, Muzzin, Gardiner, Hainsey/Dermott

You tell me which group is better.

Stralman is still relevant?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

That all taking into account of the rumored cap increase to $82-83 million? Ya either way though, Kapanens deal will be a tough one, even on a bridge.

Also have to include Horton's LTIR, but still rough cap shape for the Leafs.

 

[The Great Weal]

Stralman is still relevant?

Bolts have quality depth so they can put Girardi on the first pair if they want. Just like when the Penguins had Kessel away from Malkin and Crosby. It's because they have quality depth up front. The Leafs don't have quality depth for defense.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I like that Dubas was proactive in making the move early. A month before the trade deadline gives the team more time to get acclimated to the change. It's even a good time on a micro level with the Leafs not playing until Friday.

 

[The Podium]

Seriously?
Hedman, McDonagh, Stralman, Sergachev
vs
Reilly, Muzzin, Gardiner, Hainsey/Dermott

You tell me which group is better.

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh ~ Muzzin
Stralman > Gardiner
Sergachev < Dermott

Tampa, but less significant of a margin now

 

[Knies iT]

there's not much out there for Muzzin highlight reels

Adds a much needed physical element to Toronto’s blue line.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Bolts have quality depth so they can put Girardi on the first pair if they want. Just like when the Penguins had Kessel away from Malkin and Crosby. It's because they have quality depth up front. The Leafs don't have quality depth for defense.

Leafs now have quality depth as well.

Hedman and Rielly are comparables as are Muzzin and McDonagh.

Does Tampa have a Gardiner comparable after their top 2?