Player Discussion Koskinen Re-Signed PT2

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  1. Drivesaitl

    Drivesaitl Civilized Worm

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    This is damning with praise. Only one of our wingers in the entire roster has as many as 20pts and this only because he's parked in topsix almost constantly. Kassian isn't bringing much or any production when playing bottomsix either.
     
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    DecadeofDarkness my debt is over..

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    so much garbage lol

    maybe Koskinen is the real deal and Sekera comes back fully healthy next year and helps the team...they would mitigate the dead weight a bit

    still, if Talbot gets hot here and leads the team into the playoffs..that contract looks even more hilarious
     
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    GreatKeith GM of the year Brad Treviling

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    I doubt that would happen but it would be pretty funny.

    But man almost every single contract Chiarelli signed is an overpayment. How is that possible.
     
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    Well Kassian has 10 points +5 in 15 games since 2019 started. That’s pretty solid winger numbers. I’m just saying that I disagree that his 1.9 salary cap is dead weight to the team. Though what you pointed out is scary. Who would have guessed Chiasson would lead our wingers.
     
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    This team is going nowhere with Russell playing top 4 minutes. Need an upgrade there.
     
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    The problem lately has been that he has been playing too much in the absence of Klefbom.

    I think he is just fine with reduced minutes.
     
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    Yeah, I'll take Kassian at 1.9 per all day long. He's an effective hockey player, and has been having a pretty good 2019. Hardly dead weight. The rest of that list though? Terrifying. Although it's just too early to judge Koskinen. However, I'd put the percentage of that deal becoming an over payment at about 80%.

    In terms of other posters talking about Sekera coming back and making an impact, I wouldn't bet on it. At his age, and the fact that his lower body has taken two very significant injuries in the past two years, I would say he is all but done at being a high impact defenseman. Which really, really sucks because he was so good in 16-17.
     
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    Going to be funyn seeing all of Koskinens direct comparables get fair $1-$2 mil contracts the next year.Paid almost 4 times the market rate
     
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    GreatKeith GM of the year Brad Treviling

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    Paying him 2.5 out of the gate was stupid. I said as much when he was signed. Any potential extension was going to cost them more.

    And now we're stuck with this. What a farce of a contract.
     
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    it actually wasn't
    they paid more yes, but it was only a 1-year deal

    the extension on the other hand...was insane
     
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    GreatKeith GM of the year Brad Treviling

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    I realize that the Oilers were in competition with other teams for his services, but any extension was always going to cost more.

    This org is obsessed with overpaying players.
     
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    So does Talbot start the next game as well so that Koskinen is so cold when Talbot is inevitably dealt that he loses 10 in a row, loses confidence and then melts down to the point of playing like Montoya this season all for the low cost of $4.5 million.
     
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    4.5 was huge overpay and now they won’t even give the guy the chance to get his groove somewhat back. Start Koskinen and for a couple games. He was lights out with Klef in the lineup. Play the guy you committed to.
     
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    Hitch seems to really dislike Koskinen right now. Koskinen doing something bad after getting his sweet contract? Hitch put a lot of time in protecting his goalies and talking them up to try to build their confidence. Quite a shift in his handling of Koskinen.
     
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    Pretty much how I see this playing out.
     
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    Koskinen hasn't done much to prove to Hitch. Hitchcock hasn't had the best of luck with goaltending since Eddie the Eagle.

    Koskinen has not had the best support recently either although he never helped the cause. Hitch will grow on Koskinen eventually.
     
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    Hitchcock was mad at Koskinen after his last start (the OT loss in Montreal).
     
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    The Edmonton Oilers are very close to a decision on Andrej Sekera and other assorted Sunday musings: 9 Things

    8. If the Oilers really felt that Mikko Koskinen was their guy and rewarded him with the big contract then why is Cam Talbot in the nets right now? Well, I’m pretty sure Ken Hitchcock follows his instincts and just feels that Cam is playing better. But I’m also not so sure the club doesn’t plan to eventually sign both goalies. Just sayin’.

    So maybe I'm misreading that but is he saying there's a chance the Oilers might re-sign Talbot too? Lolz
     
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    Hitch probably just doesnt like mediocre goalie. Koskinen has been sliding hard since his 10 games hot stretch at the start of the year
     
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    The 2.5 was pretty dumb (but on the Chiarelli scalemove, it wasnt dumb dumb) It set this benchmark for his next contract. I fail to see how you get him under 2.5 on his next deal.

    The whole situation should be a lesson to people in these threads who justify bad moves by saying "Calm down, its only "X" number of years" or "X player gets even more, so this player could have gotten more elsewhere"

    The initial 2.5 mil contract on its own was a meh move. But taken into account with all of Chiarellis moves, it was a signal of an incoming dumb move. Chiarelli obviously loved him and thought he was the next Kipper. So the 4.5 gross overpay was to be expected

    This contract is going to be the next Villie Leino situation
     
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    Too bad he took the first 3 months of the season off though.
     
  23. SavesFromKosko

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    Same could be said about nurse. Too bad is right though.
     
  24. The Nuge

    The Nuge Top 9 Forward Count - 6/9

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    You don’t play the weaker goalie just because management was stupid enough to extend the wrong guy. May as well keep using Cam until he’s traded or extended

    Oh thank god. Hopefully he’s right. Just because you screwed up and signed Koskinen doesn’t mean you have to double down and trade Talbot too
     
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    rofl...shows how inept our organization is.
     

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