The Iron Goalie
Formally 'OEL for Norris'
3 assists today in his AHL season debut.
Probably not much, but even if it never happened before there's always a first. It was only one game but he looked like a whole new Kole Lind out there.Honest question:
Is there any precedence of a forward putting up .33 PPG in his first AHL season (at 20 YO) being anything of substance in the NHL?
Perhaps it's even common but I really don't know; I've never paid attention to non-NHL stats unless they were head turners (like EP's for example).
Mike Hoffman.Honest question:
Is there any precedence of a forward putting up .33 PPG in his first AHL season (at 20 YO) being anything of substance in the NHL?
Perhaps it's even common but I really don't know; I've never paid attention to non-NHL stats unless they were head turners (like EP's for example).
Honest question:
Is there any precedence of a forward putting up .33 PPG in his first AHL season (at 20 YO) being anything of substance in the NHL?
Perhaps it's even common but I really don't know; I've never paid attention to non-NHL stats unless they were head turners (like EP's for example).
Lol comparing a guy who played in the show at 19 and 20 to a guy who couldn’t even get into the lineup regularly in the AHL at 20.
The guys nearly 21. This d+1, d+2 stuff doesn’t really mean much when he’s older than the other players on his draft class.
Lol comparing a guy who played in the show at 19 and 20 to a guy who couldn’t even get into the lineup regularly in the AHL at 20.
The guys nearly 21. This d+1, d+2 stuff doesn’t really mean much when he’s older than the other players on his draft class.
Honest question:
Is there any precedence of a forward putting up .33 PPG in his first AHL season (at 20 YO) being anything of substance in the NHL?
Perhaps it's even common but I really don't know; I've never paid attention to non-NHL stats unless they were head turners (like EP's for example).
Last year i called Josh Leivo a fully developed Kole Lind (if things work out) i stand by that. Leivo being perhaps a better shooter and Lind a much better playmaker which helpsI said before the season I expected him to score 40 or 50 points and he probably will. Problem is that still doesn’t make him a good prospect because he still can’t skate.
There is no top-6 projection here. Upside is a bottom-6 checking winger which might be possible with a bit of skating improvement as he seems to have the defensive instincts and a bit of jam (or at least a skill at getting himself punched in the face in scrums).
There is no top-6 projection here. Upside is a bottom-6 checking winger which might be possible with a bit of skating improvement as he seems to have the defensive instincts and a bit of jam (or at least a skill at getting himself punched in the face in scrums).
A couple months ago you said he had no NHL upside at all, in any role. You might be underestimating how quickly things can change for 20 year old prospects.
Lind has the smarts and requisite skill to play in a top 6, he just doesn't move well enough to project into that role at this point. His feet are the only thing really holding him back, and if he can make good strides in this area, it completely changes the projection.
Last year he was getting punched in scrums, this year he's dropping guys with punches in scrums. See how quickly things can change!
But what good would another year of dominating the CHL do? Both players underestimated how tough the transition to professional hockey would be and after a sample size of one game it appears that they put in the work over the off season to put themselves in a position to make an impact in their second season. This is all part of the development process. Not all prospects are ready to step right in and effectively play against men with the same results that they used to achieve against teenagers.You got to wonder with players like Gadjovich and Lind, what is the best path for them. They are late birthdays so they were a bit older than draft-eligible prospects and they were in that too good for CHL (especially given Gadjovich's size and strength advantage) but evidently not good enough to be strong AHL contributors category. Do you send them back to the CHL? Obviously you could simply stop drafting late birthdays.
Agreed. To be fair to MS, while I think he can be a bit harsh and short-sighted at times, his opinion seems to be based on what he sees with their play at any current time. Glad to see Lind turn himself back into a legitimate prospect. Hopefully he continues to develop.
I’ve found one before, haven’t done too much research but I was curious of the same thing myself. Was going to post it in this thread but honestly can’t remember. Struggled in his first AHL season, then really came on in his second year. Don’t think it’s out of the question to give a player a couple years to adjust coming out of junior. I hope Kole the best !Honest question:
Is there any precedence of a forward putting up .33 PPG in his first AHL season (at 20 YO) being anything of substance in the NHL?
Perhaps it's even common but I really don't know; I've never paid attention to non-NHL stats unless they were head turners (like EP's for example).
it sure didnt help having nagging injuries eitherBut what good would another year of dominating the CHL do? Both players underestimated how tough the transition to professional hockey would be and after a sample size of one game it appears that they put in the work over the off season to put themselves in a position to make an impact in their second season. This is all part of the development process. Not all prospects are ready to step right in and effectively play against men with the same results that they used to achieve against teenagers.
A couple months ago you said he had no NHL upside at all, in any role. You might be underestimating how quickly things can change for 20 year old prospects.
Lind has the smarts and requisite skill to play in a top 6, he just doesn't move well enough to project into that role at this point. His feet are the only thing really holding him back, and if he can make good strides in this area, it completely changes the projection.
Last year he was getting punched in scrums, this year he's dropping guys with punches in scrums. See how quickly things can change!
It's hard to watch those videos of Lind and not see a good offensive upside there. Just such a high hockey IQ. Excellent touch with his passing game and ability to get it into the right guys hands at the right time.
Notably, Lind was on the ice in the final minute defending a one goal lead. Very encouraging for a 20 year old in the AHL, an offensive player not known for his defensive game coming out of the Dub.
Look for this kid to rocket up the prospect list this season.
But what good would another year of dominating the CHL do? Both players underestimated how tough the transition to professional hockey would be and after a sample size of one game it appears that they put in the work over the off season to put themselves in a position to make an impact in their second season. This is all part of the development process. Not all prospects are ready to step right in and effectively play against men with the same results that they used to achieve against teenagers.
Ya, but Tim Thomas made the NHL in his 30st and became an all star.