I have no grasp on what our prospects in Utica are gonna become, its a **** show.
Nobody knows at this point.
The Utica is not ran like its main function is to develop our prospects, if it were they would be allowed to play, make mistakes and learn from them.
Based on the posters that watches Utica regularly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Sound quite opposite actually. That Lind, Gadjovich, Palmu, Dahlen were all struggling mightily early in the season, and yet they play more than they deserved, with regular PP time.Nobody knows at this point.
The Utica is not ran like its main function is to develop our prospects, if it were they would be allowed to play, make mistakes and learn from them.
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Based on the posters that watches Utica regularly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Sound quite opposite actually. That Lind, Gadjovich, Palmu, Dahlen were all struggling mightily early in the season, and yet they play more than they deserved, with regular PP time.
Sounds like they were allowed to play, they just weren't as good as people expectes?
I’ve only watched a dozen games butHavent seen Utica games this year but from this thread it's clear Lind needs to improve his strength and skating.
However, what aspect of his skating needs improvement? Is it the first few steps, edge work, overall speed, or something else? It may be all of the above but what is the most glaring weakness? If he addresses this, do people think he can become a top 6 forward in the AHL based on his other talents?
They need to play hockey.
Send them away from Utica if thats not the place to play & develop them.
WrongNobody knows at this point.
The Utica is not ran like its main function is to develop our prospects, if it were they would be allowed to play, make mistakes and learn from them.
Wrong
There’s no point feeding them icetimes when they are clearly not ready for top 6 role and have serious skating issue.
Ppl like to point out Lind, Gadujovic, Palmu and Dahlen’s lack of ice times.
However, players like Gaudette, MacEwen and Brisebois got plenty of ice times from Cull simply because they are better players at the moment
Cull doesn’t hate young players, he just doesn’t like to put players in roles they aren’t ready for .
And they are, just not every single game because many of them aren’t fully mature (physically) yet/Wrong
Hockey prospects need to play hockey.
Do you think if he is able to get the separation his hockey IQ and offensive skill will translate into success?I’ve only watched a dozen games but
His first few strikes are kinda weak to me, as a result he has no ability to separate himself from defenders
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Hockey prospects need to play hockey.
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Hockey prospects need to play hockey.
Hard to say, many players fail to reach the next level (top 6 nhl player )because of their skating issues despite having decent hockey IQ and offensive skill, aka Sam GagnerDo you think if he is able to get the separation his hockey IQ and offensive skill will translate into success?
And they are, just not every single game because many of them aren’t fully mature (physically) yet/
Lind and Gadjovich are both long-term project, and by that I mean it might even take a full three years of development in the AHL before they even earns a call up
prospects need to be in a good environment to develop their skills, train and learn the game and they need to play hockey, but i do not see that they need to play every ahl game to be developed properly.
lind has 43 games this year and counting. that is more than an ncaa season. would you be complaining if he was playing ncaa? does the ncaa fail to develop hockey players properly? ncaa rookies also typically start sheltered and miss starts.
to me lind has followed a pretty typical second round chl prospect story arc this year. he has had to reinvent his game because his game did not work against men. old story.
Utica is an AHL team.Wrong
There’s no point feeding them icetimes when they are clearly not ready for top 6 role and have serious skating issue.
Ppl like to point out Lind, Gadujovic, Palmu and Dahlen’s lack of ice times.
However, players like Gaudette, MacEwen and Brisebois got plenty of ice times from Cull simply because they are better players at the moment
Cull doesn’t hate young players, he just doesn’t like to put players in roles they aren’t ready for .
Utica is an AHL team.
Also known as a FARM team.
FARMS grow things, and we aren’t going to grow anything by putting our prospects in positions they can’t succeed in.
Put our prospects in the SUN so they can grow.
In the AHL our guys like Gadjovich, Lind and Palmu haven’t gotten much sunlight, let’s be honest. I agree, they aren’t ready, but it’s not always about being ready, you have to play a bit risky for any sort of reward.
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Based on the posters that watches Utica regularly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Sound quite opposite actually. That Lind, Gadjovich, Palmu, Dahlen were all struggling mightily early in the season, and yet they play more than they deserved, with regular PP time.
Sounds like they were allowed to play, they just weren't as good as people expectes?
you know what else is an agricultural term? stunting growth
a farmer knows that if you plant crops before they are ready or overwater crops it stunts and ruins them.
if the canucks overplay a bunch of kids not ready for the ahl it hurts their development the same way itt ruins kids in the nhl
there is clearly a gap between the chl and ahl. frequently guys who can do whatever they want in the chl and have nothing more to learn there come to the ahl and hit a wall. maybe what you favour is a different transitional development league that is more focussed on skills development than on playing near nhl hockey, like a u21 or u23 soccer program.
for now, so long as they get practice time, gym time and video time and more games than they would in the ncaa i fail to see the problem with ahl deployment
This post *1,000,000. Why people choose whatever fits the narrative rather than looking at the actual facts is beyond me.