HF Habs: Joel Bouchard: The BeauCHar Edition

[Runner77]

And what's with leaving Bouchard without a contract???

Could be anything — including the Bouchard camp wanting to consider its options. Can’t think of any reason for the Habs delaying a decision to have him continue in Laval. Has to be something else.

 

[Film Noir]

And what's with leaving Bouchard without a contract???

Bergevin can't give him the GM job, can he?

 

[Film Noir]

The thing with Boucher, it’s that his thing work only the 1st yrs and after it’s going down

You may be right. Numbers are on your side. But he had crap goaltending most of the time. And as Michel Bergeron would say, you're only as good as your goaltender.

 

[WinterLion]

Could be anything — including the Bouchard camp wanting to consider its options. Can’t think of any reason for the Habs delaying a decision to have him continue in Laval. Has to be something else.

I don't think it's too complicated. Ducharme is interim coach for now and depending on if he is extended or not it may impact what Bouchard does. I hope he stays in Laval and continues his great work.

 

[Astormynight]

You may be right. Numbers are on your side. But he had crap goaltending most of the time. And as Michel Bergeron would say, you're only as good as your goaltender.

Someone also told me, it's kinda hard to verify so it might be wrong, that in Tampa Bay and Ottawa, the gm hired new assistant coaches to Boucher after his first . Assistant coaches that Boucher had no say in hiring and that he had to work with people he did not want to work with and that did not have the same vision has him. It's not a big excuse but it might explain why the it works only one year aura surrounding him.

I'll be in to give him a chance with his own assistant coaches for a 2-3 years ... he has more experience now.

 

[dcyhabs]

Could be anything — including the Bouchard camp wanting to consider its options. Can’t think of any reason for the Habs delaying a decision to have him continue in Laval. Has to be something else.

He was quoted as saying that he did not have a contract and did not want to discuss it with the media. Sounded like he hadn't been offered a contract yet but maybe he's negotiating for a promotion or more money? Looking at options?

 

[montreal]

I assume want happens is MB gets extended, Dom gets hired as coach and Bouchard will be Laval's GM/Head Coach for the next few years. Just a total guess on my part. Maybe Molson steps down as president and MB gets moved up and maybe Timmins, Burke or Mellanby become GM and they decide on Dom's future would assume they keep him but let him pick his assistants.

I hope I'm wrong and MB is gone but I would be very surprised if that happens. Then again I was caught off guard when Julien got canned, didn't see that coming. Bouchard I would be ok with him being the Habs coach but I'd rather he be in Laval as I don't know if his act would work in the NHL. You don't see NHL coaches hugging their players after they score a goal. I said at the time that I thought Guy Boucher was making a mistake, he had 1 year of experience in the AHL and then leaves for the NHL, would have been very interesting to see what might have happened had he opted to stay in Hamilton for several years to get more experience.

 

[Whitesnake]

And yet...no contracts for Bouchard yet. I don't understand that one if he is interested in staying.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

And yet...no contracts for Bouchard yet. I don't understand that one if he is interested in staying.

There are still a few head/assistant coaching jobs open at the NHL level, he might just be waiting to see if the phone is going to ring. I mean, we don't even know if Ducharme is coming back or not, technicaly at least.

 

[montreal]

I would think when the season is over we'll hear all about the extended coaches/GM so hopefully we find out Bouchard is locked up.

 

[Runner77]

Remember that tweet from a few months ago about keeping an eye on Bouchard for NHL opportunities? If you were him, wouldn’t you want to know what they’d offer before committing to anyone?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Remember that blurb from a few weeks ago about how several teams have their eyes in him? If you were him, wouldn’t you want to know what they’d offer before committing to anyone?

I must've missed the blurb because I haven't heard his name regarding NHL gigs.

It doesn't mean he hasn't garnered interest. Just that I haven't heard his name circulating.

 

[widowmaker]

Bergevin gets promoted to team president.....Bouchard GM ......and Ducharme named coach.......just a guess

 

[salbutera]

I assume want happens is MB gets extended, Dom gets hired as coach and Bouchard will be Laval's GM/Head Coach for the next few years. Just a total guess on my part. Maybe Molson steps down as president and MB gets moved up and maybe Timmins, Burke or Mellanby become GM and they decide on Dom's future would assume they keep him but let him pick his assistants.

I hope I'm wrong and MB is gone but I would be very surprised if that happens. Then again I was caught off guard when Julien got canned, didn't see that coming. Bouchard I would be ok with him being the Habs coach but I'd rather he be in Laval as I don't know if his act would work in the NHL. You don't see NHL coaches hugging their players after they score a goal. I said at the time that I thought Guy Boucher was making a mistake, he had 1 year of experience in the AHL and then leaves for the NHL, would have been very interesting to see what might have happened had he opted to stay in Hamilton for several years to get more experience.

Coach / GM Laval would be music to my ears. For all those clamoring for a Team Prez, the Achilles heel of this org going on 50-years has been amateur scouting & player development - an independent eye focused on amateur development & amateur UFA signings is exactly what this org needs & has needed in forever....not a Team Prez

 

[salbutera]

Bergevin gets promoted to team president.....Bouchard GM ......and Ducharme named coach.......just a guess

Not so fast, however, if Jo Jo follows Brisebois /. Nill route AGM AHL then promo to NHL GM

 

[widowmaker]

Not so fast, however, if Jo Jo follows Brisebois /. Nill route AGM AHL then promo to NHL GM

. That's an idea

 

[Runner77]

Not so fast, however, if Jo Jo follows Brisebois /. Nill route AGM AHL then promo to NHL GM

Has Bouchard ever stated a preference or a liking for a front office role? Maybe he’d prefer continuing in a coaching capacity, who knows.

 

[Runner77]

I must've missed the blurb because I haven't heard his name regarding NHL gigs.

It doesn't mean he hasn't garnered interest. Just that I haven't heard his name circulating.

I edited my post to more accurately reflect what had been said about Bouchard’s opportunities:

 

[Canadienna]

We can't lose him for nothing like Brisebois. Is there a limit to how much you can pay AHL coaches?

Give him some good money to put off his NHL entrance.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I edited my post to more accurately reflect what had been said about Bouchard’s opportunities:

Ah yes. I remember that one.

This doesn't mean Joel wouldn't get interest, but I don't see him getting a shot before guys like Pascal Vincent and Benoit Groulx to name two, who have been doing this and having success longer.

 

[salbutera]

Has Bouchard ever stated a preference or a liking for a front office role? Maybe he’d prefer continuing in a coaching capacity, who knows.

Jo Jo has never stated anything publicly I’m aware of. Its been rumored since the time Habs were courting him while in juniors, his preference was in management vs coaching

 

[Runner77]

Ah yes. I remember that one.

This doesn't mean Joel wouldn't get interest, but I don't see him getting a shot before guys like Pascal Vincent and Benoit Groulx to name two, who have been doing this and having success longer.

The X-factor is always the connections these guys have to NHL executives on account of past contexts like having been teammates in their younger days. There is no denying that close friendships get in the way and often supersede track records and hard facts.

 

[Habaneros]

Remember that tweet from a few months ago about keeping an eye on Bouchard for NHL opportunities? If you were him, wouldn’t you want to know what they’d offer before committing to anyone?

Only so many spots for a head coach gig...Seattle.....Arzonia......would Stevie Y fire and hire JB?


Other than that,asst coach positions......he could be Asst coach in Montreal next year if he wants.

Montreal running down the Cup,no contracts will be discussed or become a distraction.

If he wants to stay great,if not will see him some other day down the road.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Only so many spots for a head coach gig...Seattle.....Arzonia......would Stevie Y fire and hire JB?


Other than that,asst coach positions......he could be Asst coach in Montreal next year if he wants.

Montreal running down the Cup,no contracts will be discussed or become a distraction.

If he wants to stay great,if not will see him some other day down the road.

Blashill was just extended a month ago.

 

[Runner77]

Only so many spots for a head coach gig...Seattle.....Arzonia......would Stevie Y fire and hire JB?


Other than that,asst coach positions......he could be Asst coach in Montreal next year if he wants.

Montreal running down the Cup,no contracts will be discussed or become a distraction.

If he wants to stay great,if not will see him some other day down the road.

All fine but who would replace him if he were to leave? We’ve only truly had competent development in the MB era, with Bouchard on board.