HF Habs: Joel Bouchard: The BeauCHar Edition

[Mrb1p]

I would need to know more about what Weise said. Kids are doing great. Why is that if Bouchard is a bully?

Thing that I could think of is Tortorella type coaching ? Ive heard similar comments from Torts alumni.

 

[Hannibal]

Weise is so bitter. He can gtfo

 

[THE HOFF]

wait, WTF did Weise say ? was he joking ? holy shit

 

[JianYang]

I’d trust Weise on this.

knowing who Bergevin likes and his style of management and coach, I’d say Weise is probably spot on.

Weise didn't give any details so we don't know what he is basing this on, but the only thing I could think of is that whatever buttons he is pushing will have a short shelf life, but given that there is so much turnover in the AHL, I'm not even sure that would matter a whole lot.

There is no coach in the world that can please every single player either. It could be that Weise just happens to be in the minority.

What really matters at the end of the day is what the prized prospects think of their experience down there, and whether Bouchard is a guy that they can genuinely say is helping them progress.

 

[dinodebino]

Weise didn't give any details so we don't know what he is basing this on, but the only thing I could think of is that whatever buttons he is pushing will have a short shelf life, but given that there is so much turnover in the AHL, I'm not even sure that would matter a whole lot.

There is no coach in the world that can please every single player either. It could be that Weise just happens to be in the minority.

He loved Michel Therrien. So...

 

[JianYang]

He loved Michel Therrien. So...

Yeah, Weise pretty much implied that he's the only coach that actually pulled him aside when he got there and gave him a genuine clean slate, so it's no surprise that he liked him.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Yeah, Weise pretty much implied that he's the only coach that actually pulled him aside when he got there and gave him a genuine clean slate, so it's no surprise that he liked him.

He's also pretty much the only coach who ever used him in a top 6 role, which got him his one big UFA payday. Heck, the dude should name one of his kids after him, I probably would.

 

[badfish]

Funny that this is on the first page of the thread.

 

[Kojo]

So basically he's bad but in a good way.

 

[Habby4Life]

He loved Michel Therrien. So...

And MB hired JB. So...

 

[Habby4Life]

I’d trust Weise on this.

knowing who Bergevin likes and his style of management and coach, I’d say Weise is probably spot on.

He gave a pretty honest frank answer. He was asked a question and he gave his opinion. People might not like it but he was there and which immediately gives him credibility.

All the people who want to bash Weise etc, it was MB who hired JB so keep that in mind.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Did Weise play under Bouchard last season?

I think he did. Maybe he didn't like how he was treated by JB?

Maybe he thought being a veteran gave him certain privileges which he didn't get with JB and its now sour grapes on Weise's part?

 

[Archijerej]

When you are 20 yo. Maybe these youngs players who believe at the NHL, are maybe more incline to accept the sort of challenge bouchard is offering. After 28 yo and +, you are more like. Calm down coach, don’t need babysittin

Probably, yes.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Lets all be fair though, Bouchard's hyperactive, motormouth style of coaching really is best suited for a farm team environment where he can be a teacher/mentor. He wouldn't be nearly as effective in a jaded, business like NHL locker room.

 

[LePenseur]

Bouchard had to ship Varone, Barber, and another veteran because they did not “ buy in” on his system and started pouting.

if he get promoted and Price, Petry, Gallagher do not “buy in” you are a toasted coach. Works well with kids but not with businessman managing Their careers total income.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

We need Bouchard with the Habs, or another team will steal him from us.

 

[Tim Wallach]

My only comment is that Weise specified that he wouldn't want Bouchard around any of his team's prospects ever. So he's talking specifically about his tactics for developing kids. I'd say the improvements he made with KK, Evans and literally every single prospect this year pretty much proves Weise wrong, no?

Maybe he did mean it wouldn't work on veteran pros, but that's not what he said. He said it'd be damaging to prospects. All evidence appears directly to the contrary.

 

[26Mats]

Lets all be fair though, Bouchard's hyperactive, motormouth style of coaching really is best suited for a farm team environment where he can be a teacher/mentor. He wouldn't be nearly as effective in a jaded, business like NHL locker room.

Unless part of his style is adjust to superstars.

But I agree, some coaches may be good with young players, but not good with pros and/or big superstar egos.

Houle and Mario had no idea how to deal with Roy and Pierre Turgeon, to name a couple examples.

 

[THE HOFF]

Unless part of his style is adjust to superstars.

But I agree, some coaches may be good with young players, but not good with pros and/or big superstar egos.

Houle and Mario had no idea how to deal with Roy and Pierre Turgeon, to name a couple examples.

Houle and Tremblay have a combined IQ of 37, I feel sorry for them because they both have the cognitive capacity of a potato, I'd rather blame whoever employed them. That Tremblay still gives his opinion around and acts like he knows the modern game is very troubling to me.

 

[Mrb1p]

Lets all be fair though, Bouchard's hyperactive, motormouth style of coaching really is best suited for a farm team environment where he can be a teacher/mentor. He wouldn't be nearly as effective in a jaded, business like NHL locker room.

This was always my impression too, but this isn't exactly what Weise is saying though.

 

[Vachon23]

This was always my impression too, but this isn't exactly what Weise is saying though.

I'm more incline to see the result with Evans Poehling Ylonen KK then listing Weise who Bach every member of the Habs for I don't why (I mean they are the reason why he had a nice career)

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm more incline to see the result with Evans Poehling Ylonen KK then listing Weise who Bach every member of the Habs for I don't why (I mean they are the reason why he had a nice career)

He does not. He actually has been ripping Bergevin any chance he got.

 

[Scintillating10]

Is this why Caufield is on sidelines in Montreal instead of playing in Laval?

 

[THE HOFF]

This was always my impression too, but this isn't exactly what Weise is saying though.

"I would not let him anywhere near my prospects"

Its a very disrespectful thing to say if you don't go deeper ie : he's tough on them, puts too much pressure, issues teaching his principles of play ect...

He sounds like a hillbilie trying to convince the village he saw an alien. Sorry to see him fall off a cliff outside of the rink too.

 

[Mrb1p]

"I would not let him anywhere near my prospects"

Its a very disrespectful thing to say if you don't go deeper ie : he's tough on them, puts too much pressure, issues teaching his principles of play ect...

He sounds like a hillbilie trying to convince the village he saw an alien. Sorry to see him fall off a cliff outside of the rink too.

Eh, no need to make it personal. Weise is just giving his opinion and the editor made a bad clip out of it to get clicks.