BananaSquad
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This board is hilarious. Before the year TSN had Eichel ranked as a top 5-6 player in the entire league. Now he’s worth nothing more than a 2nd round pick.
Any trade with Lafreniere or Kakko and the Rangers say no thanks.
Eichel isn’t worth the hefty price tag that Buffalo will charge the Rangers. Kings can have him.
Who’s offering only a second round pick?This board is hilarious. Before the year TSN had Eichel ranked as a top 5-6 player in the entire league. Now he’s worth nothing more than a 2nd round pick.
Any trade with Lafreniere or Kakko and the Rangers say no thanks.
That would sting but I'd do that deal. It would suck to lose Kakko but we'd still have Laf, Panarin, Kravtsov, Buch, Kreider on the wings. Lundkvist is a great prospect and I'd rather trade one of our other D prospects instead but for Eichel and with Fox and Trouba, plus Schneider behind him it makes it easier to stomach.If Kakko was the "key piece" in acquiring Eichel, the Rangers would have him in an Uber to Buffalo within minutes.
Eichel scored 82 points in 77 games, followed by 78 points in 68 games, on a terrible team. What do you think he'd do on a club with talent like Panarin, Zibanejad, Lafreniere, Fox, etc.? He'd be a steady 95-100 point machine--and he's just 24.That would sting but I'd do that deal. It would suck to lose Kakko but we'd still have Laf, Panarin, Kravtsov, Buch, Kreider on the wings. Lundkvist is a great prospect and I'd rather trade one of our other D prospects instead but for Eichel and with Fox and Trouba, plus Schneider behind him it makes it easier to stomach.
Agreed.If Kakko was the "key piece" in acquiring Eichel, the Rangers would have him in an Uber to Buffalo within minutes.
The wishful thinking and attempts to devalue Eichel continues.
You can't play oracle and GM and make trade proposals with this confidence since a player of this calibre and age simply doesn't get traded. This would be a very rare happening.
But feels like if any team would trade and accept an awful deal for a player like that it would be BUF, so maybe you're right in, sometimes even reluctantly, offering scraps and might bes and creating that aura of devaluation around this.
But people should be forced to watch every second of this clip before unlocking the ability to enter this thread:
43 goal pace last season he was healthy and didn't miss the camp and later most of the season. Playing for Buffalo and Krueger.
Post the video highlights of him playing after this neck injury
Anyone who thought Eichel could even sniff a top 5 ranking is a joke and doesn't understand hockey. Eichel has never been even close to one. He shows flashes sure, but he's just another fringe top 10 Center. Nothing more.This board is hilarious. Before the year TSN had Eichel ranked as a top 5-6 player in the entire league. Now he’s worth nothing more than a 2nd round pick.
I keep thinking the Rangers are going to make a play for Eichel. Is this offer reasonable?
TO NYR:
- Eichel
TO BUF:
- Kakko
- Lundkvist
- Georgiev
- 1st round pick
The Rags get their prize without moving Lafreniere. The Sabres get rid of season-long drama and add a potential star winger, a RHD who can play in the top-4 and be a main PP QB, a very good starting goaltender, and a fairly high 1st round pick.
I'm not so sure about that. The Rangers would be getting a potential 85-100 point, 1st line centerman without giving up ANY of their 5-6 best players. Is Kakko a nice piece? Absolutely. Is he a deal-breaker when it comes to Eichel under contract? Absolutely not.
Is Nils Lundkvist an excellent prospect? For sure. But the Rags already have RHD in Fox and Trouba who aren't going anywhere. They also have two other stud, young D in Miller and Jones. Lundkvist is the perfect player to add into a potential trade because the Sabres need him more than the Rangers do.
Georgiev is also another nice piece but the Rags have their tender of the future in Shesterkin so Georgiev is a wonderful asset for them to add to an Eichel deal.
The 1st is the 1st--you don't get a Jack Eichel without including a 1st in the package--period.
While this initially looks like "sticker shock" to Rangers fans who want to steal Eichel without giving up anything of value, once Eichel becomes your star, top-line center for a decade, the Rangers become legit contenders for a long time. Picture a future PP of Panarin, Eichel, Zibanejad, Lafreniere and Fox. My goodness.
Eichel has a 10M cap hit and requires neck surgery. I’d rather keep those assets and just bring back Mika. Maybe shop Lundkvist for a young center.
Yes, but w/disclaimer, if LA wants him, which seems to be a no for bluest blue chip Cs, assuming every variation on that theme has been considered.Any trade with Lafreniere or Kakko and the Rangers say no thanks.
Eichel isn’t worth the hefty price tag that Buffalo will charge the Rangers. Kings can have him.
for all of the above, NOAgreed.
Kakko, quality d-prospect like Lundivist, 1st. That is a likely combo if Eichel is traded to NYR.
Anyone who thought Eichel could even sniff a top 5 ranking is a joke and doesn't understand hockey. Eichel has never been even close to one. He shows flashes sure, but he's just another fringe top 10 Center. Nothing more.
I think "4 1sts" should really be defined on this thread. Trading a 1st generally means you are a buyer, a buyers 1st is usually located in the mid-late part of the draft. Thus 4 1sts is equal to 4 mid-late 1sts. By definition prospects like Byfield/Kakko/Lafreniere are technically 1sts but are worth way more than a mid-late 1st. I would even say it may cost 4 mid-late 1sts to move up to the #1 or #2 spot in the draft (on average). Thus meaning the above named prospects have roughly the same trade value as Eichel and would therefore logically not be on the table in a "package deal" for Eichel.I wouldn't say this.
within top 10 when healthy, not top 5
worth 4 1sts value, just not whatever most desired currency Sabes are asking
Anyone who thought Eichel could even sniff a top 5 ranking is a joke and doesn't understand hockey. Eichel has never been even close to one. He shows flashes sure, but he's just another fringe top 10 Center. Nothing more.
Sucks he was hurt this year, pretty impressive to pretty much go PPG this season with no neck. For sure tho, fringe top 10 Center LOL.Anyone who thought Eichel could even sniff a top 5 ranking is a joke and doesn't understand hockey. Eichel has never been even close to one. He shows flashes sure, but he's just another fringe top 10 Center. Nothing more.
So its been a few days since i posted this. Nobody has said their team gets screwed. So everyone approves?I know it's not realistic but just for fun was thinking about a 3-way trade. Buffalo, Columubus and Tampa could make one that benefits all imo.
To BUF: Sergachyov, Foote, Foudy, Johnson, CBJ 1st 22, TBL 1st 22.
To CBJ: Eichel, Ristolainen
To TBL: Jones, Korpisalo
Columubus has no one remotly close to 1c. So if Eichel comes available they should go for it. Tampa needs top pair rd and a good backup right? So even if they lose on value, this fits those needs nicely. Foote and the 1st are not pieces that hurt them much. Also they get rid of TJ's contract. Buffalo gets a nice haul with a good centerpiece in Sergachyov. Having TJ in the deal is not ideal obviously but i think it shows on the package as an extra 1st. After this if they could keep Reinhart long term the young core would look very good on both c and d. Add to that a hig 1st this year and 3x1st next year. Then wait couple of years when TJ has a year left and move him with a 2nd or something if your young core is ready.
I'm not so sure about that. The Rangers would be getting a potential 85-100 point, 1st line centerman without giving up ANY of their 5-6 best players. Is Kakko a nice piece? Absolutely. Is he a deal-breaker when it comes to Eichel under contract? Absolutely not.
Is Nils Lundkvist an excellent prospect? For sure. But the Rags already have RHD in Fox and Trouba who aren't going anywhere. They also have two other stud, young D in Miller and Jones. Lundkvist is the perfect player to add into a potential trade because the Sabres need him more than the Rangers do.
Georgiev is also another nice piece but the Rags have their tender of the future in Shesterkin so Georgiev is a wonderful asset for them to add to an Eichel deal.
The 1st is the 1st--you don't get a Jack Eichel without including a 1st in the package--period.
While this initially looks like "sticker shock" to Rangers fans who want to steal Eichel without giving up anything of value, once Eichel becomes your star, top-line center for a decade, the Rangers become legit contenders for a long time. Picture a future PP of Panarin, Eichel, Zibanejad, Lafreniere and Fox. My goodness.
The trade itself is fine value wise, but your leaving out a whole bunch of factors. The PP you listed below would never exist because if the rangers made this trade, the cap room for Zibby is gone.I'm not so sure about that. The Rangers would be getting a potential 85-100 point, 1st line centerman without giving up ANY of their 5-6 best players. Is Kakko a nice piece? Absolutely. Is he a deal-breaker when it comes to Eichel under contract? Absolutely not.
Is Nils Lundkvist an excellent prospect? For sure. But the Rags already have RHD in Fox and Trouba who aren't going anywhere. They also have two other stud, young D in Miller and Jones. Lundkvist is the perfect player to add into a potential trade because the Sabres need him more than the Rangers do.
Georgiev is also another nice piece but the Rags have their tender of the future in Shesterkin so Georgiev is a wonderful asset for them to add to an Eichel deal.
The 1st is the 1st--you don't get a Jack Eichel without including a 1st in the package--period.
While this initially looks like "sticker shock" to Rangers fans who want to steal Eichel without giving up anything of value, once Eichel becomes your star, top-line center for a decade, the Rangers become legit contenders for a long time. Picture a future PP of Panarin, Eichel, Zibanejad, Lafreniere and Fox. My goodness.
I think "4 1sts" should really be defined on this thread. Trading a 1st generally means you are a buyer, a buyers 1st is usually located in the mid-late part of the draft. Thus 4 1sts is equal to 4 mid-late 1sts. By definition prospects like Byfield/Kakko/Lafreniere are technically 1sts but are worth way more than a mid-late 1st. I would even say it may cost 4 mid-late 1sts to move up to the #1 or #2 spot in the draft (on average). Thus meaning the above named prospects have roughly the same trade value as Eichel and would therefore logically not be on the table in a "package deal" for Eichel.
He’ll never play with Zibby, cap won’t allow it. It will be 1 or the other. And players don’t just jump 20 points. Usually playing with more talented people means there’s less pucks to go aroundEichel scored 82 points in 77 games, followed by 78 points in 68 games, on a terrible team. What do you think he'd do on a club with talent like Panarin, Zibanejad, Lafreniere, Fox, etc.? He'd be a steady 95-100 point machine--and he's just 24.