News: Jack Eichel has changed agents

Nothingbutglass

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Kevyn Adams disagrees. And he has the CBA on his side. That’s why the meeting last week didn’t change things.
Kevyn Adams hasn't proven he can run a hotdog stand. Eichel isn't listening to him for career altering medical decisions, regardless of what you think his leverage is.
 
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Kevyn Adams hasn't proven he can run a hotdog stand. Eichel isn't listening to him for career altering medical decisions, regardless of what you think his leverage is.

It's not Kevyn Adams giving him advice on "career altering medical decisions". It is the vast majority of the doctors and surgeons who have weighed in who are providing that advice. You act like KA just watched an episode of ER and then decided himself what surgery Eichel should have.
 
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You realize even if Anaheim got Eichel for free and he was 100% healthy they would still probably be a bottom 10 team in the league right? Probably wouldn't even make the playoffs for 3 years. So by then you are down to 2 years left with Eichel and he is turning 28.

No factor in the important picks and prospects Anaheim would have to trade to get him and I could see the Ducks never once making the playoffs while he's there
If Anaheim gets Eichel and keeps Gibson they will make the playoffs 2/3 of those years you are referring to
 

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It's not Kevyn Adams giving him advice on "career altering medical decisions". It is the vast majority of the doctors and surgeons who have weighed in who are providing that advice. You act like KA just watched an episode of ER and then decided himself what surgery Eichel should have.
What vast majority? Team doctors that are championship driven like the rest of the clown shoes organization? No thanks.
 

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It's not Kevyn Adams giving him advice on "career altering medical decisions". It is the vast majority of the doctors and surgeons who have weighed in who are providing that advice. You act like KA just watched an episode of ER and then decided himself what surgery Eichel should have.

No, but Adams did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

:sarcasm:
 
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What vast majority? Team doctors that are championship driven like the rest of the clown shoes organization? No thanks.

Well, the Penguins doctors’ advice led Letang to have fusion.

And there has never been a single NHL or NFL player get ADR. So, suggesting that the vast majority of doctors do not believe that ADR is a good choice for high impact sports like hockey and football.
 

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Well, the Penguins doctors’ advice led Letang to have fusion.

And there has never been a single NHL or NFL player get ADR. So, suggesting that the vast majority of doctors do not believe that ADR is a good choice for high impact sports like hockey and football.
That's not true at all. It has been done on hockey players, football players, MMA fighters etc. It hasnt been an option as long as disk fusion has been. Regardless of internet opinions on it, Jack clearly doesnt want the fusion surgery. Sabres have managed to bungle it into a stalemate.
 

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That's not true at all. It has been done on hockey players, football players, MMA fighters etc. It hasnt been an option as long as disk fusion has been. Regardless of internet opinions on it, Jack clearly doesnt want the fusion surgery. Sabres have managed to bungle it into a stalemate.

Name the NHL or NFL player that has had ADR.
 

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I did and you said it was not true at all.
The not true part is this:
So, suggesting that the vast majority of doctors do not believe that ADR is a good choice for high impact sports like hockey and football.

Its been done on rugby players, MMA fighters, hockey and football players that were not in NFL or NHL, it doesnt suggest that its not a good choice for high impact sports.​
 

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The not true part is this:
So, suggesting that the vast majority of doctors do not believe that ADR is a good choice for high impact sports like hockey and football.

Its been done on rugby players, MMA fighters, hockey and football players that were not in NFL or NHL, it doesnt suggest that its not a good choice for high impact sports.​

Just because it has been done on a minority of patients does not mean that the a significant number of surgeons are comfortable with it in an NHL player.

Prusmack, who is the Broncos team doc, even said he wouldn’t use ADR on an NFL player.
 

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Just because it has been done on a minority of patients does not mean that the a significant number of surgeons are comfortable with it in an NHL player.

Prusmack, who is the Broncos team doc, even said he wouldn’t use ADR on an NFL player.
Link? We're talking about hockey though.
Prusmack said the fact an NHL player has never had disc replacement surgery shouldn’t be an issue.
“I don’t think that’s an argument or you would never make medical advances in any rhyme or reason,” Prusmack said. “This is not an experimental procedure. This is established in literature as being superior to the ACDF.”
Prusmack said the artificial disc is constructed to handle high-impact hockey hits that force the head to whip back.
 

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Link? We're talking about hockey though.
Prusmack said the fact an NHL player has never had disc replacement surgery shouldn’t be an issue.
“I don’t think that’s an argument or you would never make medical advances in any rhyme or reason,” Prusmack said. “This is not an experimental procedure. This is established in literature as being superior to the ACDF.”
Prusmack said the artificial disc is constructed to handle high-impact hockey hits that force the head to whip back.

He said it in the interview, if I remember correctly.

At the end of the day, the CBA is on the Sabres side as their doctors determine the course of action. It doesn’t matter what a second or third opinion doctor says.
 

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So what if it hasn't been done on other NHL players, what a dumb argument that could have been used on every procedure done in the last 100 years.

If you are extra stupid you could use this brilliant argument multiple times. "It's only been used on 3 NHL players to date."

You might be able to get away with that one up to 10 times per procedure.

Idiotic
 
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Seras

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He said it in the interview, if I remember correctly.

At the end of the day, the CBA is on the Sabres side as their doctors determine the course of action. It doesn’t matter what a second or third opinion doctor says.

Perfect, the Doctors are on the Sabres side because they are paid by them, nothing biased here at all!
 

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