Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21

[doublechili]

If you're much better than your teammates and opponents, you tend to develop bad habits, that are hard to shake.

Tell me about it. The inferior level of play from my dekHockey days likely kept me out of the NHL.

That and, you know... skating.

 

[Tahoeblue]

Short answer: Nope

Ouch!!!!

 

[leeroggy]

Tell me about it. The inferior level of play from my dekHockey days likely kept me out of the NHL.

That and, you know... skating.

With me it was inconsistency with the Nok-Hockey bank shots . . . but my wood-panel skating was top notch

 

[JRD76]

Wahlstrom with a goal today

 

[danteipp]

Sure would. Quick question: Any other Isles prospects selected to attend any WJC camps? Is Krygier a possibility for team USA. Thanks in advance

One other WJC hopeful to note, New York Islanders prospect Matias Rajaniemi has been named to Finland’s preliminary roster for the 2021 World Juniors. So that is a bit of good news.

 

[Tahoeblue]

One other WJC hopeful to note, New York Islanders prospect Matias Rajaniemi has been named to Finland’s preliminary roster for the 2021 World Juniors. So that is a bit of good news.

Thanks for sharing!! That would be good news if they both make the squad. The tournament is certainly more enjoyable when our prospects are involved.

 

[Top Corner]

There are all kinds of factors to consider, one of the biggest bring his attitude. As long as he's willing to work hard he's almost guaranteed to learn more just practicing with better players and coaches.

If you're much better than your teammates and opponents, you tend to develop bad habits, that are hard to shake.

True but then the argument can be made that it stifles the creative side . As an example, if this player was one to always want the puck , he might feel pressured to give the puck to a more experienced player thus hindering his development. I think the scouting staff should really pay close attention in these cases . I recall Barzals first time up with the Isles and every time he touched the puck he was looking to get rid of it. He didn’t really feel comfortable. He went back down and a year later found it. You just never know how it affects certain players

 

[SI90]

Nice move from Jeffries

 

[buud]

Nice move from Jeffries

showed some good speed for a big guy.

 

[xECK29x]

showed some good speed for a big guy.

Big? He's 6'

 

[buud]

i may be wrong, but it seems like the Lou and Barry are more involved in the draft, than Garf was.

Garf would make the first few picks, and then let the scouting staff take over, whereas LL and BT seem to have their fingerprints on all the picks.

what do you guys think?

 

[buud]

Big? He's 6'

6' and 195 lbs. that's big for an 18 year old forward.

of course there are much bigger, but most of them are not considered skilled, or are defencemen.

 

[buud]

showed some good speed for a big guy.

i also liked how he took the puck to the outside and protected it, as well as drove to the net.

 

[xECK29x]

Some notes:
- QMJHL. Liiga & Mestis on pause
- Boston Univ. not playing until January

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	AIK / HockeyAllsvenskan	9	4	3	7	4	-1
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	HC Vita Hasten / HockeyAllsvenskan	11	1	1	2	2	0
				Bridgeport (AHL)	0	0	0	0	0	0
				* Sweden U20 Team	0	0	0	0	0	0
Anatoli Golyshev	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #95	NR	Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg/KHL	29	9	12	21	26	2
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	9	TPS / Liiga	15	2	5	7	8	0
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	20	Orebro HK / SHL	18	2	7	9	6	2
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	NR	Drummondville Voltigeurs / QMJHL	8	6	4	10	18	1
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	NR	Brynas IF J20 / J20 Nationell	16	8	7	15	12	7
				* Brynas IF / SHL	8	0	0	0	0	0
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	NR	* Pelicans / Liiga	18	0	2	2	8	2
				Pelicans U20 / U20 SM-Sarja	0	0	0	0	0	0
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120		HIFK / Liiga	14	3	8	11	10	1
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147		Portland / WHL	0	0	0	0	0	0
				* Melville Millionaires (SJHL)	6	4	8	12	2	-
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame / NCAA	6	1	2	3	2	-2
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170		Univ. of North Dakota / NCAA	3	0	3	3	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW/RW	2016 round 7 #201		Boston Univ. ("C") / NCAA	0	0	0	0	0	0
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ. / NCAA	6	1	0	1	8	2
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College / NCAA	2	0	0	0	0	-3
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121		Merrimack College / NCAA	2	1	2	3	2	2
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214	NR	IPK / Mestis	9	2.55	.901	0	6-2-1
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72		Pelitat / Mestis	4	4.44	.833	0	0-3-1

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[xECK29x]

6' and 195 lbs. that's big for an 18 year old forward.

of course there are much bigger, but most of them are not considered skilled, or are defencemen.

Oh yea for an 18 year old sure, he looks great early on

 

[PK Cronin]

i may be wrong, but it seems like the Lou and Barry are more involved in the draft, than Garf was.

Garf would make the first few picks, and then let the scouting staff take over, whereas LL and BT seem to have their fingerprints on all the picks.

what do you guys think?

Seems unlikely, with the exception of what attributes Lamoriello wants the scouts to prioritize. I just don't see any GM sifting through footage of hundreds of prospects who will be going in the later rounds.

 

[buud]

Seems unlikely, with the exception of what attributes Lamoriello wants the scouts to prioritize. I just don't see any GM sifting through footage of hundreds of prospects who will be going in the later rounds.

i don't see this either, but i can see Barry and Lou saying to the scouts, "Show us your top 5", and then proceeding to join minds, regarding skill and team needs.

 

[PK Cronin]

i don't see this either, but i can see Barry and Lou saying to the scouts, "Show us your top 5", and then proceeding to join minds, regarding skill and team needs.

The top 5 for what, every round or just the top 5 of the draft? They definitely have input on the first selections (like all GMs) but it'd be interesting to know if they look at the top players around their target area for the later rounds. The problem is that the later rounds become such a mess once players start dropping and moving up a bunch of spots, so even if they do I'm not sure how effective it is.

 

[buud]

The top 5 for what, every round or just the top 5 of the draft? They definitely have input on the first selections (like all GMs) but it'd be interesting to know if they look at the top players around their target area for the later rounds. The problem is that the later rounds become such a mess once players start dropping and moving up a bunch of spots, so even if they do I'm not sure how effective it is.

i'm sure the GM is heavily scouting the top 2 or 3 rounds, doing interviews. after that, is where the scouts come in. finding gems, overlooked players, injured players, targeting areas of need, etc...

our scouts certainly don't go see every prospect, but can garner a decent idea of who will be where (via other rankings?).

yeah, later rounds are a mess, and are basically a crap shoot. all i know is that if i were GM, i would be using my scouts as a resource, not letting them make picks.

anyway, the question i had was about Garf vs Lou. do they approach the draft the same way? is Lou more hands on? i just remember hearing something about Garf letting scouts pick some players, and i don't think i would do that. yeah, it may be a vote of confidence for the scouts but still, i would feel like it's my neckon the line, and i would be very involved, right up until last pick.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Haven't been too invested in prospects during the pandemic, just a very general question. Not including Sorokin and Dobson, since they are going to be on the big team. Who has stood out as the Isles best prospect this fall?

 

[doublechili]

Haven't been too invested in prospects during the pandemic, just a very general question. Not including Sorokin and Dobson, since they are going to be on the big team. Who has stood out as the Isles best prospect this fall?

Not sure about "best", but Koivula and Salo have been putting up good numbers.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Not sure about "best", but Koivula and Salo have been putting up good numbers.

That's a name I haven't heard in awhile. Salo, I had to look him up for a reminder. 2017, not one of the Isles most stellar drafts. Mind you they only had 5 picks. No first, maybe Salo or Aho can change that.

 

[buud]

i like Salo. i saw just a small sampling, but i liked his awareness and smooth stride.

 

[Icejoker]

About Salo, his team hasnt playd since 21.11 before yesterday (covid), they won 1-0 , Salo TOI 23,32 and he is one of ten defencemen who should play for Finland in Channel one Cup in Russia from 17.12

 

[LeapOnOver]

Holmstrom...sigh.