Is Marner the best passer in the league

[BertCorbeau]

The only thing that could make Marner better is him taking a good team-friendly contract to help the keep stay competitive

 

[Notsince67]

Marner's gonna get paid Dubas Eff'd him when he signed him on his ELC . He didn't get the same Bonuses that Nylander matthew got . He was to excited and signed his contract prematurely. Now hes going to take them to the bank & make them pay for it

Why is someone always a victim? I have no doubt that Marner will get paid fairly just like everyone else. The kid wants to play. He told his agent not to press for bonuses. He accepted his demotion and now eagerly accepts roles even on the PK. Even Kucherov doesn't do that. If Marner is in the top 10 in points this year, who will deny him getting paid?

 

[Brownbeard]

One of them

 

[Son of Petter]

Not the best, no. He’s good tho.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Why is someone always a victim? I have no doubt that Marner will get paid fairly just like everyone else. The kid wants to play. He told his agent not to press for bonuses. He accepted his demotion and now eagerly accepts roles even on the PK. Even Kucherov doesn't do that. If Marner is in the top 10 in points this year, who will deny him getting paid?

It was also said by many insiders early in the year that hes not taking a home town discount and he's going after every dollar

 

[Notsince67]

It was also said by many insiders early in the year that hes not taking a home town discount and he's going after every dollar

Which insider? I follow stuff pretty closely and this just seems like fake news

 

[TheProspector]

Marner may or may not be the league's best passer, but he is the Toronto Maple Leafs' best player -- and that includes players not presently in the lineup. He is a pretty f***ing good passer, though.

 

[Menzinger]

Which insider? I follow stuff pretty closely and this just seems like fake news

Dreger has floated some fairly high numbers in the recent past (name dropping eichel).

Fortunately I consider him to be lacking any credibility. Others take him more seriously though

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

 

[Critical13]

If Kucherov got 9.5, I think he's getting close to that. He's not far off.

 

[Prospero]

Holy Moley! Do I ever have something to brag about in Buffalo. Now I do, and it's me choosing Marner over Eichel. He needs to work on his backhand, though, and slapshot, and fake slapshot.

 

[Go4soda]

Mitch is the straw that stirs the drink for this team. I Believe he is the most ‘important’ player on this team.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Marner is finally given the ice time that a player of his caliber should get, and we are seeing the results now. Some of our top players have been quite underrated simply because they have trailed comparable talents in ice time.

In one of the Nylander threads, I made a comparison of what Pastrnak had done up until he had played the same amount of minutes that Marner ended up with. They were basically side by side, and that's without additional context applied. As good as a Pastrnak or Eichel is, Marner is better.

 

[IPS]

Marner is finally given the ice time that a player of his caliber should get, and we are seeing the results now. Some of our top players have been quite underrated simply because they have trailed comparable talents in ice time.

In one of the Nylander threads, I made a comparison of what Pastrnak had done up until he had played the same amount of minutes that Marner ended up. They ended up basically side by side, and that's without additional context applied. For as good as a Pastrnak or Eichel is, Marner is better.

In your opinion, why do you think they've received less ice-time than their comparable around the league?

 

[Shayne Corsi]

My thread last season suggesting Marner could actually end up the best of the big three is looking prescient lol. Seriously though, I love everything about this kid. He is a gem and I hope we get him locked up asap.

 

[Apotheosis]

The scary part is, we know he's super talented on the PP. He's doing this at ES. What's stopping him from doing both PP and ES? Possible 100 point season?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The scary part is, we know he's super talented on the PP. He's doing this at ES. What's stopping him from doing both PP and ES? Possible 100 point season?

he's already 2nd in the league in 5v5 points, but he's getting unlucky on the PP. I don't see 100 points happening as long as he's stuck with 2 minutes a night on the PP unfortunately, but he should get 80-90 this year if healthy

 

[hector morrison]

In your opinion, why do you think they've received less ice-time than their comparable around the league?

Can I answer? In a word ...Babcock. Same reason the least talented player on the team got more ice-time than the most talented player on the team against Vegas!

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The only thing that could make Marner better is him taking a good team-friendly contract to help the keep stay competitive

probably not going to happen because he already gave a discount on his ELC. another thing to thank Lou for

 

[Mr Hockey]

Can I answer? In a word ...Babcock. Same reason the least talented player on the team got more ice-time than the most talented player on the team against Vegas!

if only babcock knew what he was doing, we could have won that game, too bad ...

 

[IPS]

Can I answer? In a word ...Babcock. Same reason the least talented player on the team got more ice-time than the most talented player on the team against Vegas!

Oh for sure.

I got a strange feeling that this Nylander holdout has Babcock as a reason in there somewhere.

 

[X66]

Oh for sure.

I got a strange feeling that this Nylander holdout has Babcock as a reason in there somewhere.

I have that gut feeling as well.

More so than who he plays with and how he's used, I think Nylander never liked that out of the 3 kids, he was always the one that would get back handed comments from Babcock in scrums etc.

 

[Liminality]

Can I answer? In a word ...Babcock. Same reason the least talented player on the team got more ice-time than the most talented player on the team against Vegas!

At 5 on 5 Marner got more than 2 minutes worth of icetime than Hyman in that game.

 

[IPS]

At 5 on 5 Marner got more than 2 minutes worth of icetime than Hyman in that game.

Carl Hagelin played 4:48 of PK time vs Washington yesterday. Do you see him leading Pittsburgh in ice-time? No, you don't. Their coach isn't a complete moron and he knows how to get ice-time to his best players when special teams minutes get out of hand.

Edit:Bryan Rust, who plays with Crosby at ES, got almost 6 minutes of PK time and played 15:42.

I have that gut feeling as well.

More so than who he plays with and how he's used, I think Nylander never liked that out of the 3 kids, he was always the one that would get back handed comments from Babcock in scrums etc.

Nylander never got rewarded for performing better. He knows this, his dad knows this, and his agent knows this. Because of this, they've been trying to negotiate a higher number that doesn't reflect his prroduction.

 

[Knightnight]

I have that gut feeling as well.

More so than who he plays with and how he's used, I think Nylander never liked that out of the 3 kids, he was always the one that would get back handed comments from Babcock in scrums etc.

NO ONE was a bigger whipping boy than Marner. Spent more time on the fourth line than Willy. In first 1.5 years never played off 3rd line. Willy got first line matthews for most of first 2 years and Kadri before going to 4th. Babcock constantly mentioning Marners work ethic, cheating... Willy no where near took the crap Marner did.