Is Marner the best passer in the league

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  1. notdoneyet

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    babcock quote
    Mitch thinks what your going to do before you think what your going to do

    Our whole power play is run through marner. Is he the best passer in the game today.
     
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    Better try this on the main board, too biased here
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    Thornton, Gaudreau, Backstrom all pretty good. Taveres with an outrageous touch pass last night.
     
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    Well... McD would be the obvious answer. Marner is real close though.
     
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    I fix Babs comment ... ;)
    • "Mitch knows where you should be at as the play continuously evolves"
     
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    Gretzky was Gretzky.

    But Marner ... on the power play ...

    Look, last season, I don't know about you guys or gals, every time Marner was on the power play, I was talking to the TV, give it to Marner! Give it to Marner!

    Gretzky did not overpower anyone with his speed or shot. But he anticipated better than anyone, and out deek you always.

    That's Marner on the power play, last year and right now. Also when he plays with Kadri there is some of that.

    This is what is really encouraging too, which is what happened last night.

    Matthews on the other side of the ice, he was beginning to do his own Marner thing too.

    Holy S***!

    That's why Micky Redmond was saying, oh no not again!

    Because we were all thinking the same thing, oh wow, they did it again!

    :dunce:
     
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    Most of what Marner does; I don't get how someone can have that type of vision.

    Each time I watch him, it's like watching that commercial where the guy tries peanut butter for the first time everytime he eats it.
     
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    No. He's roughly in the top 10 though which is crazy enough.
     
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    Some of you really need to watch other teams, threads like this are so odd.
     
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    Not the best, but he's up there. He also might be the very best PP player in the league.

    He's been pretty damn good so far this season:

     
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    McDavid isn't the best passer. At least, not the way I would define his skillset. He's simply great at creating plays with his speed for simple tap-ins. That's what makes him the best player in the world.

    When I think of a good passer, I think of someone who can pick people out even from a standstill or on the move. Whether it involves a saucer pass, shot pass, or a flip over the top. Thornton or H. Sedin would be examples of this in their heyday.

    As for Marner, I wouldn't say he is the best, but his vision on the PP is ridiculously good. You'll never see Marner telegraph his passes (something Willy was guilty of last season), which makes Matthews/Tavares even scarier.
     
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    I don't think I'd call him the best passer, but he is up there. his vision is truly outstanding
     
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    Marner is awesome (no question) but is he the best is quiet debatable
     
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    Didn't we have this thread already? Like a week ago? I remember writing something about the difference between playmaking and passing, and that the technically best passers might not be the ones we commonly believe. I know I've read that Giordano for example makes an insane amount of passes with a high difficulty and a stunning success rate. Sounds like three metrics the best passers should do well in.

    The quote in OP to me talks very little about his ability as a passer, and his tremendous vision and hockey IQ as a playmaker.
     
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    It's "Quiet Debatable " whether or not we have had this thread already LOL !
     
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    Exactly. I agree.

    Great passer but not the best. However his high hockey IQ and ability to find open players is near the top (playmaker).

    He sees plays develop and knows where someone will be... but a lot of players wouldn't make a play themselves and then find that open guy to tap it in because they don't have that IQ . The pass itself after he opens up the team defending .... it could be the easiest pass ever and he usually puts it right on the tape.

    It's what he does a lot of times before that... that's what is special.
     
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    While some might say 5 games is too early to anoint him so, I urge you to post this on the main board.
     
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    Elite yes. Top 20 for sure.

    Has ways to go before he's the best, if that even ever happens.

    Also Sundin used to rack up 40+ PPP a season so these bums need to step it up before we give them PP-god status.
     
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    Interesting. According to Babcock Marner is the Zlatan Ibrahimovic of hockey obviously.
     
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    He's up there, but not the best. We'll see how he does this season, but at this point I think these guys are more proven playmakers.

    Thornton
    Gaudreau
    Voracek
    Wheeler
    Klingberg
    Karlsson
    Crosby
     
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    Not true... Marner is guilty of telegraphing passes, but he's improved a lot. Just last game he gave the puck away with a very obvious pass that was easily picked off (I was shaking my head, even I saw it coming).

    I remember when Marner's first preseasons, his passes were junior level speed and he struggled alot. He's learned that NHL has much harder velocity of passes and now he's really rifling passes... which I think has helped him succeed at this level (in comparison to his early struggles).
     
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    id say top 10 lol.
     
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    Jake Gardiner is the best assist man n the league
     
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    No. There are still a few that are better than him.

    One of them being Connor freaking McDavid.
     
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    I think OP meant passing to his own team.
     

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