Is Artemi Panarin second best player in the NHL ?

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He's so good. Imagine he didn't take that break, he'd be 1 point behind Draisaitl (1.44 pts/game for 60 pts) and would make a more intriguing Art Ross race. He'd be a legitimate threat to dethrone McPoints

No he wouldn't. He is 4th in point and 3rd in PPG since last season. He is in the running for #2 player with Drai and Mac (and maybe Matthews).
 

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Of course not. HES THE BEST HANDS DOWN.

Doesn't need to rely on generational skating like those scrubs Mc and Mac. Just does it all with skill and IQ.
I saw your post where you said that Kucherov cant do nothing without their partners in Tampa. This means that your credibility in a conversation about IQ is not very high
 
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I think the impact this guy brings to his team is only behind McDavid.

Currently this season his point per game rate is equal to Drai and behind McDavid so even production wise he qualifies as second best.

But I think what’s more important is his impact on different game situation.

He did lead the league in ES points, his OT record is ridiculous - Columbus went from the best to the worst OT team when Panarin left and he’s also one of the best shootout specialists in the league
He’s not even the best lw in hockey so how could he be this high?
 

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Of course not. HES THE BEST HANDS DOWN.

Doesn't need to rely on generational skating like those scrubs Mc and Mac. Just does it all with skill and IQ.
What a clown post. He isn’t even the best at his own position brad has been by far better one the last 4-5 years and one of the best in the league. Breadman isn’t on brads level imo
 

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He is incredible, but I couldn't put him #2 with any sort of confidence.

The reality is the top 5 or 6 are pretty interchangeable after McDavid on any given night.
 
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Can we stop disparaging Ryan Strome? all the guy has done is put up points the last 2 seasons (with & without panarin) despite NYR fans constantly deriding him

nice to see this narrative has leaked out to the general NHL fan
 
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Nope, the dude is good but not on that next level. Heck he is not even the best Russian in the league.
 

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People saying he’s not even the best winger are truly delirious. He’s head and shoulders better than Marchand who’s playing on a top line that he’s played on for years.

Panarin with 3 points so far tonight sits comfortably on the second place in points per game
 
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People saying he’s not even the best winger are truly delirious. He’s head and shoulders better than Marchand who’s playing on a top line that he’s played on for years.

Panarin with 3 points so far tonight sits comfortably on the second place in points per game

Bubububu Marchand has better D.

That's another thing folks get wrong about Artemi, they think he's some sort of liability on D, which is actually the complete opposite. He's as complete a player as you'll find.
 

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Panarin, Kucherov, Draisaitl, Kane, MacKinnon is pretty much the same tier.

Elite vision, habds, creativity, skill, understanding of the game, goalscoring, playmaking, defense. Kane and Draisaitl may not be great at defense.

Its a toss up.

Pit its avout winning, and Kane and Kucherov had shown the way ehen it matters.

So I would like to put Kucherov and Kane in tier after McDavid. Tier III as Panarin, MacKinnon, Draisaitl. And Ceosby is still a great player.

Tier IV for me is Matthews, Marchand, Barkov and those.
 

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If only he was Canadian.
Just like Matthews, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Barkov, Pastrnak, Kane, and Vasilevskiy. Oh wait....
All guys who have been in the discussion up to this point as potentially better but not being Canadian didn’t hurt them in the discussion.

I’m not even saying he is or isn’t the 2nd best player. We are all going to have our own personal bias in this discussion. But nationality is a weak argument here, especially with how many non Canadians are being argued as players in this discussion.
 
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