If The Oilers Pick At #3, Strome Or Hanifin?

[Soundwave]

He had Dumba at 2 in 2012.

8 goals in 55 games and a +13 for Dumba this year ... honestly Button may not have been far off the mark there.

Many people had Murray at no.2 that year, but it looks like Dumba may well be better than Murray.

 

[PKSpecialist]

I understand we need the #1 D but at this point in the rebuild by the time Hanifin is ready to be the stud that we need in the blueline. Hall, Nuge and Eberle would be gone. I'll take Strome because he's faster to develop. Also Don't tell me the kids are going to wait for Hanifin.... because that's is a fantasy. They want to win NOW! Trade for that #1D just my 2 cents...

I understand what you are saying, but I don't look at this rebuild as a one and done thing. The goal is to become a contender every year. To do that we need to not only build for the short term, but for the long term as well. When Hall/Eberle/Nuge are gone, we will still have Nurse/Draisaitl/Yak and Hanifin around. And so the wheel turns.

We finally have an AHL affiliate team of our own that is just now starting to churn out prospects. Marincin, Klefbom, Lander, Arcobello.... We have had a place to develop depth defensemen like Musil and Davidson. Guys like Miller are given a chance. We need to continue to draft well now, and take today's current NHL roster needs out of the equation. Eventually, with the right tutelage and proper development we will become a perennial contender.

If we have gone through this decade of futility only to become futile again once Hall/Eberle and Nuge move on, then I will make it my personal mandate to change this organization top to bottom...... and I am likely the only supporter of what MacT has done here.

 

[McDoused]

I really like everything Hanifin brings. I don't get the Strome hype. Can someone fill me in? I just think he is a Jason Spezza type. I don't know if he will ever be gritty enough defensively.

 

[IAGTTAYM]

I really like everything Hanifin brings. I don't get the Strome hype. Can someone fill me in? I just think he is a Jason Spezza type. I don't know if he will ever be gritty enough defensively.

Big, highly skilled, competitive and smart/disciplined. Outside of his skating there is not much not to like. Basically he is the type of C that you build a team around.

 

[Quinteoilers]

Big, highly skilled, competitive and smart/disciplined. Outside of his skating there is not much not to like. Basically he is the type of C that you build a team around.

I agree, Drai and Strome as big super skilled centres. He just needs to be developed properly. Another year in Jr. Team Canada, Bakersville...

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I'd take Hanafin. If he's even as good as Trouba he'll be contributing pretty quickly and well, we might as well draft D since we only sign guys like Niki and Ference.

 

[Mr Positive]

8 goals in 55 games and a +13 for Dumba this year ... honestly Button may not have been far off the mark there.

Many people had Murray at no.2 that year, but it looks like Dumba may well be better than Murray.

there's more than a couple Dmen from that draft currently ranked better than Murray. The jury is still out on that draft though. If Murray can find a way to stay off the IR he may be the next Neidermayer like everyone said.

 

[thadd]

Hannifin please. But for some reason I have visions of Mac T going with Strome.

 

[SK13]

Honestly surprised to see a huge consensus. I'm good either way, honestly.

I don't know that there's #1 potential in Hannafin, and I'm not sure that Strome isn't at least somewhat a product of his teammates. The defenseman seems like the better fit, but the forward typically pans out better and quicker high in the draft. This is one of those "I can live with that" type of drafts. Keep in mind, the more likely option (unless Arizona passes us) is we pick 4 and get the guy who is left over.

What I'm more concerned with is that the Oilers do not leave a hole in their roster for whoever they pick. Or even Nurse/Draisaitl. Learn your ****ing lesson MacT. Make them take the spot from a veteran.

 

[McDoused]

Big, highly skilled, competitive and smart/disciplined. Outside of his skating there is not much not to like. Basically he is the type of C that you build a team around.

He seems like a nice peice but I guess I'm just picky given our center depth. I would still take RNH or Draisaitl over him.

Nuge
Strome
Draisaitl
Gordon/Lander

That's pretty damn impressive.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Draisaitl is underrated by many imo. He played his first NHL games on a team that was ******* bad under a moronic coach... and came through it all ok.

I don't think he looked terrible... he looked like an NHL rookie learning and playing his first games in the NHL.

I think his second half (if he had stuck around) would have been much better than his 1st half when he got a chance to play more under Nelson.

His weaknesses are overstated... he has size, skill and high hockey iq... elite playmaking and a strong work ethic. His major knock is skating but that can be worked on.... and even if he stays mediocre in the skating department I think he still makes a solid top 9 centre... not everyone has elite or even average skating in the NHL (obviously by definition there are below average skaters in the league as not everyone can be average or above.)

 

[Approved Variety]

Rather roll the dice on Draisaitl as our future #1aC with Nuge, and thus go after a potential #1D in Hanifin. Rather than get a C that may be better than Drai, while we still look weaker on D than forward.

I won't be pissed off if we pick Strome, though.

 

[Seedling]

He seems like a nice peice but I guess I'm just picky given our center depth. I would still take RNH or Draisaitl over him.

Nuge
Strome
Draisaitl
Gordon/Lander

That's pretty damn impressive.

Exactly and the safer bet is Strome (D are always riskier IMO).

There are two ways of building. One is down the middle and one if from the net out. This would solidly complete a build down the middle and let us trade another piece for help on D if needed.

Also don't discount our other first and seconds for D picks. There are a lot of good D in this draft IMO.

 

[McGoMcD]

Hanifin, I would take Marner ahead of Strome as well.

 

[Seedling]

He seems like a nice peice but I guess I'm just picky given our center depth. I would still take RNH or Draisaitl over him.

Nuge
Strome
Draisaitl
Gordon/Lander

That's pretty damn impressive.

Stome has the potential to be first line ahead of Nuge IMO. Basically a nice problem to have. Sign Roy and let Strome and Drai develop another year if need be. Strome is said to be NHL ready already though.

I'd still like Provorov if it's between him and Hanifin but Button has Hanifin at 10 now. He's dropping now that it's crunch time. No way I use a top five pick on him now.

 

[Tyrolean]

Neither, Marner or Provorov.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Just wait until Bob McKenzie's pre-draft compilation list gathered from discussions with half the league's scouts come out and then pick the consensus prospect ranked #3.

 

[Digger12]

there's more than a couple Dmen from that draft currently ranked better than Murray. The jury is still out on that draft though. If Murray can find a way to stay off the IR he may be the next Neidermayer like everyone said.

I don't recall anyone saying he had Niedermayer upside, only that he skated like Niedermayer. He never showed the offensive chops at the junior level that Nieds did.

Regardless, a Nieds without the 60+ points/season is still a very useful player...IF he can stop being made of balsa wood.

 

[Digger12]

As for #3, I'd pick Hanifin and even Marner over Strome...but of course I'm just going off Youtube highlight videos, like a lot of fans. So I'm not exactly basing my decision from a rock solid foundation here.

 

[Approved Variety]

Stome has the potential to be first line ahead of Nuge IMO. Basically a nice problem to have. Sign Roy and let Strome and Drai develop another year if need be. Strome is said to be NHL ready already though.

I'd still like Provorov if it's between him and Hanifin but Button has Hanifin at 10 now. He's dropping now that it's crunch time. No way I use a top five pick on him now.

Button is a joker. He has literally stated live on the radio that defensive ability isn't that important for a defenseman, because the really good ones always have the puck.

The guy would be lower than a lot of posters on these boards in hockey draft IQ if he wasn't lucky enough to be on TV and given tickets to fly around North America to watch hockey.

He's not someone to use as a reference to prove a point. His rankings are out and out ridiculous. That's why you look to consensus rankings, not some guy who watches hockey and isn't even a real scout.

He also believes NCAA hockey and CHL are no different when it comes to point totals, and level of competition. But he says all this stupid stuff and comes out with bizarre rankings so that he drums up more and more conversation and controversy. Don't think too hard about what he has to say.

/endrant

 

[Mr Positive]

I don't recall anyone saying he had Niedermayer upside, only that he skated like Niedermayer. He never showed the offensive chops at the junior level that Nieds did.

Regardless, a Nieds without the 60+ points/season is still a very useful player...IF he can stop being made of balsa wood.

A quick google search gave me several articles on it. It's actually mainly his puck moving that draws the Niedermayer comparison, although their skating is similar. eg.
http://thehockeywriters.com/ryan-murray-the-next-scott-niedermayer/

 

[OilTastic]

I would take provorov over hanifin all day long.

don't think for a second that the Oilers wouldn't think of either taking him there or gambling a bit and trading down a couple of spots to #5 and then taking Provorov there if they could get something extra. he'd have been well scouted with the Wheat Kings having just played a playoff series against the Oil Kings.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I take Hanifin, but I don't know you go wrong with either.

 

[TheGuyInTheChair]

Gotta go with the consensus dman in Hanifin and hope he turns out to be a really good NHLer and maybe the best dman in the draft.

 

[Fourier]

Honestly surprised to see a huge consensus. I'm good either way, honestly.

I don't know that there's #1 potential in Hannafin, and I'm not sure that Strome isn't at least somewhat a product of his teammates. The defenseman seems like the better fit, but the forward typically pans out better and quicker high in the draft. This is one of those "I can live with that" type of drafts. Keep in mind, the more likely option (unless Arizona passes us) is we pick 4 and get the guy who is left over.

What I'm more concerned with is that the Oilers do not leave a hole in their roster for whoever they pick. Or even Nurse/Draisaitl. Learn your ****ing lesson MacT. Make them take the spot from a veteran.

The only teammate that Strome could be a product of is McDavid. Without McDavid Erie is a pretty ordinary team this year, especially the version that played while McDavid was out since they had other injuries. Strome was by far their best player while McDavid was out. He also had 35 points in 21 games without McDavid so its not like he did nothing.