He may hit the free agent market this summer. Is a top 10 player? A top 10 centre?
He hasn't cracked the top 15 in scoring since 2015. This past season he finished second in scoring on his team. He finished in the top 10 in Selke voting in 2017, but some believe he is not good at all defensively.
Where would you rank him among Cs and players and how much would you pay him?
McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar and Stamkos are the only centers who are a cut above him, Mack, Kuz and Scheifele possibly but too early to say.
Numbers wise says he's good but not great and certainly not elite status. But he could have huge years offensively in Toronto which would vault him up the list.
Didn't Giroux play wing beside Couts basically all year.Giroux has been better also.
That guy went into the Kawhi trade thread and was laughing at Toronto fans and saying suck it because it must suck for a superstar on a Toronto team to not want to play for them. He has some issues.I mean if everyone was calling me a jerk, I'd have to at least consider the possibility that they're right.
No. The only centers that are a cut above him are those first 3. Backstrom, Kopitar, and Stamkos aren't a cut above him, probably Bergeron too. They're all in that same 2nd tier. Same with Mack, and Scheifele.McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar and Stamkos are the only centers who are a cut above him, Mack, Kuz and Scheifele possibly but too early to say.
Giroux has been better also.
He's certainly not better than those listed by Voodoo, but he is the best centre on the Leafs.No. The only centers that are a cut above him are those first 3. Backstrom, Kopitar, and Stamkos aren't a cut above him, probably Bergeron too. They're all in that same 2nd tier. Same with Mack, and Scheifele.
Mods lock this thread up. Wont get an accurate answer here. Only terribly biased opinions. Answer is gonna clearly be between what leaf haters think and what leaf fans think.He's certainly not better than those listed by Voodoo, but he is the best centre on the Leafs.
Just because you personally don't like what you're reading in a thread doesn't mean it needs to be shut down.Mods lock this thread up. Wont get an accurate answer here. Only terribly biased opinions. Answer is gonna clearly be between what leaf haters think and what leaf fans think.
The only centers that are clearly a notch above the rest are geno, sid, and Mcdavid. Everyone else is in some tier.No. The only centers that are a cut above him are those first 3. Backstrom, Kopitar, and Stamkos aren't a cut above him, probably Bergeron too. They're all in that same 2nd tier. Same with Mack, and Scheifele.
Hence why he was voted #4 C on HF when he was with the Islanders...John on the Isles was considered "marginally talented" by non-Isles fans...so since we (Isles fans) are biased because we thought of him as being elite...it would make sense that outsiders probably had it right.
In conclusion. JT is a marginal player with a decent ceiling.
Agreed. I’d rank him in the top 10. The order will fluctuate a bit every year.McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar and Stamkos are the only centers who are a cut above him, Mack, Kuz and Scheifele possibly but too early to say.
The irony in all this "now he's a Leaf, everyone hates him" complaining is, if you look at who voted for whom in that linked poll, most Leaf fans voted for Matthews, not Tavares. There are very few actual Leaf fans who voted for Tavares.
So I guess the reverse is true as well? As soon as the Leafs sign someone, their fanbase rates them higher than previously?
Leafs have 2 franchise Centres and a back-to-back 2 way 30 goal scorer as their #3 C. And people expect regression? LOL.
Oh HF, never change. How did last year's theory work out for you about the Leafs regressing because they would have more injuries?
McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar and Stamkos are the only centers who are a cut above him, Mack, Kuz and Scheifele possibly but too early to say.