Speculation: Hall megathread part 2

[le_sean]

I guess the next few years don’t count then. Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak and Rask will all forget how to play hockey.

Add Hall to that mix and I like their top 6 quite a bit. He did say he’d entertain a shorter term.

Which is exactly what the poster you responded to said. Bruins are obviously ahead of the Habs the next 2 years.

 

[b in vancouver]

I'm happy with the way the Habs played after the long layoff, but... they were terrible before that. They're still far, far behind the Bruins, imho.

Some of the Bruins' core players might be aging, but the organization has proved time and time again in the last few years that it's capable of retooling and injecting new blood in the team. Boston is a well managed team.

People have been predicting The Bruins downfall since they lost to The Hawks in The Finals. I guess if people keep repeating it then eventually it'll come true but, despite the lack of Cups, they've probably been the most consistently good/great team for the past 50 years. Betting against them being a contender is more wishful thinking than anything. I'll believe it when I see it - as they always seem to find a way to bring in talent.

 

[Just Linda]

If the Habs sign Hall they would trade Tatar. That alone would likely get them under the cap. Tatar is easily moved with 1 yr left at $4.8m, as top 6 lw/rw coming off 61 pts in 68 games.

Hall would take Tatar’s spot on the top line with Danault and Gallagher for now and likely would play with either Suzuki or more likely Kotkaniemi once he is ready for full time top 6 duty.

Hall’s style and pace of play I think fits very well. I think he could be a difference maker playing for them.

He seems to value tradition. The idea of being a star for the Canadiens has to be tempting for someone like him.

Maybe they’re one of the only teams offering him a long term deal at a good aav. I think that’s their best chance. Giving him $9m x 7 gives him a big pay day and long term security on a team that has a good mix of ready-to-win vets and up and comers.

I'd rather keep Tatar and trade Drouin.

 

[Ezpz]

I guess the next few years don’t count then. Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak and Rask will all forget how to play hockey.

Add Hall to that mix and I like their top 6 quite a bit. He did say he’d entertain a shorter term.

Bergy is already starting his decline, the point was Boston are a 1-2 year option. If Hall is thinking long term it's not the option. Same reason Hossa didn't sign long term with Wings/Pens.

 

[DJB]

If Hall gets signed long term, that team will regret it.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't think Hall is that great of a player. Hes a speed guy with a good shot and questionable IQ.

We can joke about the tank command stuff but there are aspects of his game I don't like.

I think hes vastly overrated

 

[Snipes45]

If Hall gets signed long term, that team will regret it.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't think Hall is that great of a player. Hes a speed guy with a good shot and questionable IQ.

We can joke about the tank command stuff but there are aspects of his game I don't like.

I think hes vastly overrated

I say this over and over. Hall needs to go to a team like BOS. Hall cannot be the defacto top player.

 

[Bleeker]

If Hall gets signed long term, that team will regret it.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't think Hall is that great of a player. Hes a speed guy with a good shot and questionable IQ.

We can joke about the tank command stuff but there are aspects of his game I don't like.

I think hes vastly overrated

Come on , the guy won MVP just 2 years ago, give him some credit. He's elite
He's top 10-15 amongst wingers

 

[DJB]

I say this over and over. Hall needs to go to a team like BOS. Hall cannot be the defacto top player.

Hes a Phil Kessel. A solid 1st liner but not a line driver.

 

[Snipes45]

Hes a Phil Kessel. A solid 1st liner but not a line driver.

He can drive a line, but IMO he needs another guy on his level on his team.

 

[Snipes45]

In Boston, he can play on his own line. Less pressure. They are not getting him, but he could do that in EDM too. COL as well.

 

[Snipes45]

That's why I think he will fail if he signs big in Nashville.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

There is so little info.
With Duchene we knew he wanted nashville or montreal.
With tavares we knew it was going to be one of the 6 teams he met.
With hall we know nothing on which teams interest him the most

 

[FerrisRox]

He can drive a line, but IMO he needs another guy on his level on his team.

Like when he won the Hart Trophy while outscoring his next closest teammate by 41 points?

 

[DJB]

Come on , the guy won MVP just 2 years ago, give him some credit. He's elite

Jose Theodore won a Hart as did Tom Anderson, Al Rollins, Chuck Rayner, Roy Worters .

Winning the Hart doesn't make you an elite player....

 

[robertocarlos]

What about short term with the Habs in the hopes that long term Habs are winners and he can sign again if he does well and Habs don't prefer Laine in 2 years because Hall did not exceed expectations.

 

[wintersej]

NSH and BOS are trending DOWN, and fast. MTL with their young C core, their juggernaut D and now the best G tandem in the league is on a fast rise up.

Bruins have two players 24 and under in Pastrnak and McAvoy that are better than anything on the Habs roster lol.

 

[robertocarlos]

Like when he won the Hart Trophy while outscoring his next closest teammate by 41 points?

I have no answer to that fact. Was it due to injuries?

 

[nbwingsfan]

Bergy is already starting his decline, the point was Boston are a 1-2 year option. If Hall is thinking long term it's not the option. Same reason Hossa didn't sign long term with Wings/Pens.

Hossa wanted to stay with the Wings. They (wrongly) chose Franzen instead

 

[Snipes45]

Like when he won the Hart Trophy while outscoring his next closest teammate by 41 points?

Exactly, he didn't have much run support. That is my point. I said he can drive his own line. If he goes to a team where he is far and above the star, they won't go anywhere.

 

[LongIslandBruinsFan]

 

[nbwingsfan]

He can drive a line, but IMO he needs another guy on his level on his team.

Who was on his level when he essentially carried NJ to the playoffs on his way to a Hart trophy?

 

[wintersej]

Exactly, he didn't have much run support. That is my point. I said he can drive his own line. If he goes to a team where he is far and above the star, they won't go anywhere.

I'm looking forward to him driving a line with Pastrnak on it for the next few years. That by itself is a pretty hard thing to beat from these other teams.

 

[Skelen]

Does that make what I say less true? BOS core is getting old and with Krug's departure (and Chara too probably), their D core is McAvoy and Carlo. Not great. Their prospect pool? Not great either.

Almost the same mess with NSH, with an overpaid Duchesne. Do they want to do the same with Hall?

You're telling me they are the best possible option for Hall right now? What about the Habs make them contenders right now? Hall has said he would be willing to do a short deal to win NOW. Montreal should not steer the ship for a player like Hall and hope they can win in the next 3 years. In 3 years time they could be serious contenders but Hall doesn't do that today especially given that they still have to shred cap to even fit him in.

 

[RI.B FAN]

NSH and BOS are trending DOWN, and fast. MTL with their young C core, their juggernaut D and now the best G tandem in the league is on a fast rise up.

This is laughable

 

[BB88]

Which is exactly what the poster you responded to said. Bruins are obviously ahead of the Habs the next 2 years.

If they can add Hall they will keep going

2 under 25y franchise talents, McAvoy, Pasta(nobody on Montreals u25 gets close to either)

Quality under 30 players Hall, Coyle, Carlo, DeBrusk, Studnicka, Grzelcyk

Elite vets, Bergeron, Marchand, Rask

Quality vets, Krejci, Smith

Question marks with potential, Kase, Lauzon