Hall is on Fire!

[Tarus]

I have been one of those that has suggested trading Hall in the past but not because I don't recognize his talent. I think he is one of the best wingers in the game.

I just question the importance of wingers. I can think of 2 scenarios of the top of my head where teams were junk with 2 SUPERSTAR wingers. The Thrashers sucked with Kovalchuk and Heatley and the Ducks sucked with Kariya and Selanne. I can't remember a team sucking with 2 superstar dmen or centers.

With McDavid in the fold, we are set at center. I would still entertain trading Hall for an impact dman, only because I value the position a lot more.

The Thrashers sucked because they had a terrible GM for a decade

The Ducks were an expansion team with two superstars in an era when certain teams were so stacked, they had Hall of Fame goal scorers playing on their 3rd and 4th lines.

 

[JustinCider]

Well the reality of the cap world is that no team will be perfectly balanced, because you just can't afford to fill every spot.

ps, I think pitts biggest failure is from the fact that Fluery alwasy disapears in the playoffs. If he was worth what they were paying him I think they would have won a second cup. Also Crosby isn't what he use to be.

They were also missing their top 3 Dmen for a long period of time.

No Letang.
No Maata.
No Erhoff.


Pittsburg may have struggled at times this year, and they might not have the greatest wingers, but Hornquist, Kunitz, and Perron are all very good wingers. Any team that loses their top 3 D is not going to win in the playoffs. To blame it on crappy wingers or MAF is ridiculous.

 

[tiger_80]

Hall said he feels he's one of the best at his position, which is certainly true. He had a tough year for sure, but he should be up there with the likes of Benn and Parise as one of the top 2-4 LWs in the game next year.

Yeah, there are not that many LWers who one can say are clearly better than Hall. Maybe Ovechkin, simply due to his scoring ability rather than overall play, Benn, maybe Sedin, but probably not. I'd take Hall over Parise.

 

[rboomercat90]

Hmph, So things have changed 180 degrees since this time last year?

whatever the Oilers players and management decide to do is the right move. Doesn't matter what it is for some.

 

[Slicknitty]

Taylor Hall epic fist pump!

 

[azashi]

I agree, which I why I wouldn't trade Hall. Hall's contract will be as teal at 6 mill. He is already worth more like 9 mill.

I think we need to learn to distinguish between "worth" and "get paid on the open market".

For example, PK Subban got a $72M, 8-year contract. That's $9M/year, cap hit. That's approximately what he'd get paid on the open market.

That doesn't mean he's worth it. Arguably by signing him, the Montreal Canadiens guaranteed their own semi-competitiveness over a 1-3 year period, but ensured their long-term mediocrity and failure. Long before Subban is out of his prime, he will be a hindrance to his team by not just not being a value to his team, but being a cap hindrance even relative to performance, no matter what his VORP (value over replacement player) stat is.

 

[fifty_in39]

Hallsy does it again. Carrying Team Canada on his back right now!

 

[Spawn]

Hallsy does it again. Carrying Team Canada on his back right now!

Goal and an assist and instrumental in two other goals tonight. He's been great no doubt.

 

[oXo Cube]

What I like the most is how quickly Duchene disappeared as soon as Hall was moved up to the Crosby line

 

[PaPaDee]

Time to trade him while his value is high!

 

[5 14 6 1]

I better not see any of you putting this guy in trade proposals this summer. He's elite no question. Going to be a beast come playoff time.

 

[PaPaDee]

I better not see any of you putting this guy in trade proposals this summer. He's elite no question. Going to be a beast come playoff time.

I love Hall - but if there was a trade to bring back a #1 Dman, I think I'd have to do it.

 

[syz]

I love Hall - but if there was a trade to bring back a #1 Dman, I think I'd have to do it.

Teams don't trade #1 dmen for #1 wingers.

 

[PinSeeker]

I love Hall - but if there was a trade to bring back a #1 Dman, I think I'd have to do it.

I tend to agree with this.

However, I don't think it's necessary with the UFA dmen we have some chance at nabbing

 

[Aceboogie]

What I like the most is how quickly Duchene disappeared as soon as Hall was moved up to the Crosby line

Made Crosby look even better when Mackinnon was taken off

 

[RoboNerdOK]

Teams don't trade #1 dmen for #1 wingers.

Yeah but you have to wonder if the Devils might be in that position.

 

[PaPaDee]

I tend to agree with this.

However, I don't think it's necessary with the UFA dmen we have some chance at nabbing

The list of UFA Dmen is pretty thin IMO. And even then, I don't think there's any #1 guys there.

 

[5 14 6 1]

I love Hall - but if there was a trade to bring back a #1 Dman, I think I'd have to do it.

Sure but no one is offering Doughty for Hall. That would be the calibre of D I would need to move him.

 

[syz]

Yeah but you have to wonder if the Devils might be in that position.

I wasn't aware that the Devils had any #1 dmen.

 

[Tarus]

Yeah but you have to wonder if the Devils might be in that position.

Not sure how they can be in that position since it's debatable if they even have a number 1 defenseman.

They most definitely don't have a number 1 defensemen of the type Oiler fans are talking about when they mention trading Ebs/Hall.

 

[oilerbear]

Good to see hallsy getting lots of points, but to be honest, he's still giving the puck away way too much to be considered one of the best players on the team.

Players who drive zone entry. often turn over the puck.
Especially wingers entering on there side.

I guess we could ask him to hang back and let someone else drive the entry!

 

[oilerbear]

I love Hall - but if there was a trade to bring back a #1 Dman, I think I'd have to do it.

What is a #1 Dman?

Cause i think they do not exist!

 

[5 14 6 1]

Yeah but you have to wonder if the Devils might be in that position.

Adam Larsson? The guy had half a good season, no chance he brings back a guy like Hall. I would bet my left nut Hall is the most untouchable player on the roster for Chia. He is a winner and if we trade him we will regret it for the rest of his career while he is putting up huge playoff years for the other team.

 

[kickaction]

Just imagine Hall, Eberle and McDavid in a playoff series....

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

On the 3rd Canadian goal it looked like Hall might of got a stick on that to create the turnover for Ekblad, I noticed on TSN they actually have the Couturier goal credited to Hall in error, I'm thinking he might have one more assist on the day.

IMO Hall deserved player of the game over Ekblad today, he was a big factor on 4 of the goals Canada scored, also great to see him and Ebs getting time with Crosby. That's a nice treat for the two of them.