For real. Can you imagine it’s like the clutch third period of the game 7 of the West finals and the Avs are rolling three lines…maybe the attach the talented young Newhook to G to juice up the depth and yet there is some fan sitting in the stand thinking “gee, sure wish we had Andrew Copp or Artturi Lehkonen out there instead of Claude freaking Giroux”.
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I don't think people are misunderstanding Giroux's game. But it also sounds like you are not understanding what Coleman Goodrow Gourde did for the Bolts. Sure I'll take Newhook/Nichuskin Giroux Lehkonnen line but a Newhook Giroux Compher/LOC probably won't be very good during the playoffs.
BrindamoursNose
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If you don't watch Giroux play, just say that.
JoeSakic13
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This is the same guy that said “we” don’t need Giroux on the Avalanche and said that we need someone to support Nuke on the 3rd line (where he hasn’t been all season).
I don’t think he watches anyone play.
Coach Parker
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I'd love to see him in Boston on Bergeron's wing with Marchand. 50% retained and DeBrusk moving in the Lindholm/Chychrun trade means they can afford one of those D and Giroux.
You're out to lunch if you think we "need" Giroux. But yeah just accuse anyone who doesn't have your opinion that they don't watch hockey.
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He’s been a great Flyer and some are discounting him here for his current value/play, when they probably shouldn’t be.
Here’s the big issue. Let’s say it’s either of the two teams connected the most. Colorado and Florida.
Both have traded away a lot of draft capital for the next couple of years, and neither will be able to afford to sign him for next year. So to them, he’s nothing but a pure rental. So how much can they legitimately give, or would give when he’s not their missing link? Especially compared to a few players out there with term, where you can justify the player you’re spending so much on.
Yes, he’d help, but would he really help more than Jarnkrok who went to Calgary today? Maybe a little bit. Certainly not worth the prices being thrown around.
It’s probably much more realistic to go after a Stastny compensation wise. Just don’t think anyone is really lining up, ready to offer what Montreal received today, or Anaheim received for Manson.
Both Colorado and Florida would be much smarter to go after someone with term if the price for CG is a 1st.
Here’s the big issue. Let’s say it’s either of the two teams connected the most. Colorado and Florida.
Both have traded away a lot of draft capital for the next couple of years, and neither will be able to afford to sign him for next year. So to them, he’s nothing but a pure rental. So how much can they legitimately give, or would give when he’s not their missing link? Especially compared to a few players out there with term, where you can justify the player you’re spending so much on.
Yes, he’d help, but would he really help more than Jarnkrok who went to Calgary today? Maybe a little bit. Certainly not worth the prices being thrown around.
It’s probably much more realistic to go after a Stastny compensation wise. Just don’t think anyone is really lining up, ready to offer what Montreal received today, or Anaheim received for Manson.
Both Colorado and Florida would be much smarter to go after someone with term if the price for CG is a 1st.
With Florida dealing Thier first and helleson gone in Colorado I think the odds of giroux staying are getting better
JoeSakic13
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Colorado has several more prospects and a 1st round pick.
Not to mention Florida has a bunch of prospects they could move on.
It’s far from over.
The issue I see is that Boston has less draft/futures capital than the Panthers or the Avs (even after their trades). So if Boston gets one of Lindholm/Chychrun, are they really going to still have enough to trade for Giroux?
Canadienna
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What pieces are left? I have a hard time believing they will deal a third 1st rounder and Lundell's untouchable. Do they have the futures left to get Giroux and would that nuke their future? It makes me wonder if it could be a roster player going out with someone like Tippett.
JoeSakic13
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Tippett is definitely in play, but they’ll have to add another serious prospect if they want to land another big fish. Two top end prospects and a 3rd?
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Thatd be an overpay even for Chychrun, the most valuable player potentially on the market.
If Giroux is dead set on Florida and only Florida, I could see them not getting much more than Tippett
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Claude Giroux got Michael Raffl to score 21 goals in 67 games. Any line with Claude Giroux and two other viable NHL players is going to be a good line, and if he's on your third line you have one of the best third lines in the NHL, perhaps the best. It's very simple. Giroux does all of the things the guys you mentioned do, but he's 5 times the player.
Canadienna
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I get your point but it's kind of funny because Artturi Lehkonen scored the western conference final winning goal last year.
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God forbid there’s an injury in the Top 6, Giroux can plug in there.
It’s also a good test drive for reupping him for next year when Kadri and Burakovsky are likely to leave.
It’s also a good test drive for reupping him for next year when Kadri and Burakovsky are likely to leave.
Dread Clawz
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Yeah, Tippett is blocked by so much depth anyway. Obviously you don't give him away for just anybody, but I dont mind dealing him for Giroux. I have to think a future 2nd or another prospect added on, maybe Denisenko. If they want D, Ludvig or Nause. The Panthers still have a decent prospect pool even if other teams' fans don't think it's sexy. We will survive.
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I’m not going to speculate on names or anything. But some of the names tossed around, I don’t really like.
RHD / C are probably the flyers biggest weakness.
I’ve also said before but I think Claude will give a 3-5 team range, he’s been the Flyers for the last 1000 games. And my other prediction is I think he comes back.
RHD / C are probably the flyers biggest weakness.
I’ve also said before but I think Claude will give a 3-5 team range, he’s been the Flyers for the last 1000 games. And my other prediction is I think he comes back.
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