Post-Game Talk: GAME 8 - A Frustrating Night in Vancouver - Canucks 2 BRUINS 1 F/OT

[Blowfish]

He is one of the hardest working forwards we have, too. Lots of people ripped all over the move this summer, but there is more to the guy than what he did in Carolina for the most part. Perfect for our bottom 6 and PK and can play up if need arises.

Very true. Love watching him play. That 4th line is pretty darn good.

Donato with just over 7 minutes.

I felt this team was more deserving last night. Pretty darn impressive without Krug M Voy and Miller. Heinen looked good / he needs to utilize his quick release more often. Very deceiving but effective.

 

[Marcobruin]

If anyone needs a better example of why Krejci is more drag than sail on this team then you need to watch that game again last night. To say we have nothing better neglects the talent in Providence, be it raw, it still would be an upgrade over that tired and worthless effort we got from him last night. Lost every puck battle on the boards. Trailed the play by great lengths after the lost possession, and couldn't sustain puck possession in the offensive zone or keep up with his wingers. This league is all about speed and Krejci is all about puck watching and waiting.

Totally played on his ass. I've seen enough of this for the last 4 seasons. Don't talk to me about points. Anyone out there is going to get points as a center on a line with talented wingers. It's time for the long pants Sweeney and Cassidy and sit him. Plug in some of the younger talented centers you have stocked in Providence.

Time to call up Colby Cave

Who are his talented wingers?
And yes I'll talk to you about points and he's still producing.
He only has one goal and his line is still on the plus side after all his falls and stuff. If you fix on a player with the intention of looking at all the shortcomings ...you will only notice those.
We have enough of an anemic offence removing DK for anyone of our AHL level is a mistake. Especially now where the kids on the roster aren't producing ...this is the question mark and concern right now.. If we are going to trade DK it will probably be a rebuild move ...if that's the case .... Rebuild fully

 

[Dr Hook]

Very true. Love watching him play. That 4th line is pretty darn good.

Donato with just over 7 minutes.

The 4th line is a positive for us, completely. I feel like Donato needs to be in Providence getting some quality ice time and rounding out his game. I think with that drop in ice time Cassidy might be getting around to that idea as well. But there is a lot of understandable negativity over this game, so I'd like to throw out a couple more positives: Kampfer was actually decent last night. I'd hate to see him regularly out there, but for a 7th d man who's been in the press box for 3 weeks he played a solid and simple game, and nothing really egregious. Bjork has ramped up his physical game too. Looks like a totally different player in that department from last season. The offensive side will gel for him eventually, but I am happy to see him working hard on the walls and in the corners and backchecking like he has been.

EDIT: Should have added, just for you @Blowfish time to call up Cehlarik in place of Donato

 

[Comedy of Errors]

Krejci, 7 million a year...minus -1. 24 shifts 19.23 ice time. and 1.58 powerplay. ONE SHOT ON GOAL!!!! Nuff said.

Wagner had 5 shots on goal on 10 minutes of ice time and ZERO powerplay minutes..

Stop the madness defending him.

 

[Blowfish]

The 4th line is a positive for us, completely. I feel like Donato needs to be in Providence getting some quality ice time and rounding out his game. I think with that drop in ice time Cassidy might be getting around to that idea as well. But there is a lot of understandable negativity over this game, so I'd like to throw out a couple more positives: Kampfer was actually decent last night. I'd hate to see him regularly out there, but for a 7th d man who's been in the press box for 3 weeks he played a solid and simple game, and nothing really egregious. Bjork has ramped up his physical game too. Looks like a totally different player in that department from last season. The offensive side will gel for him eventually, but I am happy to see him working hard on the walls and in the corners and backchecking like he has been.

EDIT: Should have added, just for you @Blowfish time to call up Cehlarik in place of Donato

LOL Doesn't have to be C ... Cave playing well, Maybe Zach showtime?

 

[Dr Hook]

Krejci, 7 million a year...minus -1. 24 shifts 19.23 ice time. and 1.58 powerplay. ONE SHOT ON GOAL!!!! Nuff said.

Wagner had 5 shots on goal.

Stop the madness defending him.

Hey to be fair not one of those Wagner shots looked remotely like going in the net.

 

[Over the volcano]

Krejci, 7 million a year...minus -1. 24 shifts 19.23 ice time. and 1.58 powerplay. ONE SHOT ON GOAL!!!! Nuff said.

Wagner had 5 shots on goal.

Stop the madness defending him.

They should play him for a couple games with Marchand and pasta on his wings just to end this kind of nonsense.

 

[Marcobruin]

It’s not about the position of the team. It’s about the player.

If at some point down the road Patrice Bergeron has little value to the team (for whatever the reason) and we are offered a deal at the deadline, of course you consider it. It would be silly to do otherwise.

It’s hard for me to see such a thing happening any time soon, but I guess I’ll at least provide you that answer to the question.

Was that supposed to be some show stopper of a question?

As I said , I totally agree with the notion of not being unconditionally loyal.. It's a business and must treat as such.
The question is though how long does one hang on.. A.gm.must be able to assess his team realistically...
Before I continue , I still don't understand why you had to defend DK during his Prime years.
Key player in his prime... He has slowed but still an asset. As I said if we trade him , the player has to be an upgrade not just afill in
Back to trading players even our most " worshipped" ones . Well it's like sort of selling a stock...you wait too long you may not get good value or any value at all.
It's about making key moves and at the right time.
When chia traded Seg ..I wanted to shoot him...I still do.. At the time of the announcement I mentioned how disastrous this trade was and how destructive it would be for years to come.
Our roster would definitely be one to be much more wreckoned with
If Tyler was still here. A team cannot make horrible historical trades like that and expect to simply move on ..That trade may be very well be a cause of a shorter time frame for rebuilding the team and that as you know is not a short process

 

[Gordoff]

I was referring to ur statement that you had to defend him during his prime years..... Why .. there shouldn't have been anything to defend..
As for now the guy still produced last season in the playoffs.. what more do you want? You want him
To carry the team...no he's not that player but he is still an asset and unless we have someone way above him...I wouldn't touch him
Trade him for an excellent center sure but not just for a reg center .no way

Noooo. That's Bergeron's and Marchands job.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

As I said , I totally agree with the notion of not being unconditionally loyal.. It's a business and must treat as such.
The question is though how long does one hang on.. A.gm.must be able to assess his team realistically...
Before I continue , I still don't understand why you had to defend DK during his Prime years.
Key player in his prime... He has slowed but still an asset. As I said if we trade him , the player has to be an upgrade not just afill in
Back to trading players even our most " worshipped" ones . Well it's like sort of selling a stock...you wait too long you may not get good value or any value at all.
It's about making key moves and at the right time.
When chia traded Seg ..I wanted to shoot him...I still do.. At the time of the announcement I mentioned how disastrous this trade was and how destructive it would be for years to come.
Our roster would definitely be one to be much more wreckoned with
If Tyler was still here. A team cannot make horrible historical trades like that and expect to simply move on ..That trade may be very well be a cause of a shorter time frame for rebuilding the team and that as you know is not a short process

I’m not sure where this conversation has gone, but I definitely think it’s time to be over.

That’s not on you anymore than me, but I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore...

 

[Marcobruin]

Krejci, 7 million a year...minus -1. 24 shifts 19.23 ice time. and 1.58 powerplay. ONE SHOT ON GOAL!!!! Nuff said.

Wagner had 5 shots on goal on 10 minutes of ice time and ZERO powerplay minutes..

Stop the madness defending him.

It's coming down to shots on net...
Backstrom hasard 13 Shots on net
Since the start of the season that's less then 2 shots on net per game..get rid of him ..moreover Backstrom plays with a much more electrifying team and ..
Playmakers are notoriously not big shooters on net ..they pass first If the bruins could have landed a TAv and traded DK for good value then ok but no way just for a fill in I have enough of stale type players on this roster

 

[Marcobruin]

Noooo. That's Bergeron's and Marchands job.

And Pastrnak.. I don't think we have that player that can actually
Carry the team consistently...those are quite rare

 

[Gordoff]

They should play him for a couple games with Marchand and pasta on his wings just to end this kind of nonsense.

That's a good idea that I would love to see. It would be "swim or sink" time for DK but if he started to light 'em up then all is good. Especially if Bergy still is able to get it done with DeBrusk and whomever on the other wing.

 

[Gordoff]

And Pastrnak

Agreed but if he does get those two and he still doesn't rise up then?

 

[Mainehockey33]

Krejci, 7 million a year...minus -1. 24 shifts 19.23 ice time. and 1.58 powerplay. ONE SHOT ON GOAL!!!! Nuff said.

Wagner had 5 shots on goal on 10 minutes of ice time and ZERO powerplay minutes..

Stop the madness defending him.

Stats aside, what about his game didn’t you like last night?

 

[Marcobruin]

I’m not sure where this conversation has gone, but I definitely think it’s time to be over.

That’s not on you anymore than me, but I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore...

Ok.ill simplify
1Why did you need to defend Krejci in his prime years? Didn't warrant it
2GM must trade his players at the key time ...or might very well be too late
3The Seg trade has set this team way back for years to come. It has caused a predicament for DS ..like it or not..
4 imo DS will have to decide and not to long from now.....if its time to rebuild.
5 I understand we have youngsters but im not excited not nearly as I was when we had the young Berg's krejci Kessel lucic
Plus Savard Chara . I saw a hell of a team coming back then ....I don't see the same now

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Bruins 4-2-2, 2nd place in Atlantic, two pts back of the TOR juggernaut with a game in hand.

Last year through October, 4-3-3.

Deep breaths people.

 

[Marcobruin]

Agreed but if he does get those two and he still doesn't rise up then?

You mean if DK gets his wingers?
I think Debrusk could be one but he's young and he will go through the growing pains. Now I'd like to see DK with a valid rwinger with a right handed shot

 

[Marcobruin]

They should play him for a couple games with Marchand and pasta on his wings just to end this kind of nonsense.

A couple of games is not the way that's like ok put him in with them for 2 games so we can all see to get rid of him ..bad intentions
Put him for a much longer stretch then that ... And put Berg on the second line and then you may very well be surprised who gets targeted although Berg seems to be immune to that no matter what

 

[Comedy of Errors]

Stats aside, what about his game didn’t you like last night?

Of course, special teams. The top two lines get a minute apiece. Sometimes Cassidy will roll the 1st line the whole time and/or plug-in Debrusk or Krejci to play the blue line so as to have 5 forwards or 4 forwards one defenceman. Patsa and Marchy did their best but were double teamed as expected. What is failing the Bruins powerplay is F'n Krejci. He provided no offensive spark, no offensive puck possession, and lost every battle on the boards. So, your two-minute powerplay fizzles as a result. Its, not all Krejci fault, I'm not saying that. But his ice time and powerplay time is producing nothing.

 

[Comedy of Errors]

You mean if DK gets his wingers?
I think Debrusk could be one but he's young and he will go through the growing pains. Now I'd like to see DK with a valid rwinger with a right handed shot

I am so sick or the marriage proposals for Krejci to "get him productive." All we have heard for the last few years is Trade Trade Trade for a winger for him. Who's making who look good anyway with that logic? He supposed to be "the" playmakers not passager on his line. Nuff said.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Anyone who thinks this is a playoff team is drunk.

get a grip dude

 

[Marcobruin]

I am so sick or the marriage proposals for Krejci to "get him productive." All we have heard for the last few years is Trade Trade Trade for a winger for him. Who's making who look good anyway with that logic? He supposed to be "the" playmakers not passager on his line. Nuff said.

Put him on the first line as a poster suggested then put Berg on the second line for a good amount of games.. then you can judge for yourself..
Krejci isn't the player he used to be but he's not done yet.. however I think your expectations are way too high. He is a playmaker first.
Not a sharpshooter

 

[Marcobruin]

As I mentioned, we are reaping and have been reaping the downfalls of the Seg trade .. that's where our frustration should belong. Krejci and Seg.. now that's a dandy ..I am much more concerned with some of these youngsters ..if they do not pan out and start producing ... This team cannot be a viable contender with one line.. so how long does DS wait for the youngsters to produce.
Keep in mind the bruins window isn't open for years any longer

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Amazing how much things can change in a week.

I’m not ready to go full chicken little yet, but the dry spell is pretty concerning.

They haven’t exactly had to play the iron of the league yet aside from the opener against the Caps either.

That has never mattered with the Bruins . They always seem very capable of competing against the better teams in the league but will often struggle with average - mediocre teams . I think the goaltending and D is fine but there are obviously some issues to sort out with lines 2 and 3 .