Fantasy Mock p3

[hockeynorth]

Top Ten Value Picks

Player	Team	Pick	Rank	Difference
Rocco Grimaldi	Ottawa	440	205	235
Ilya Mikheyev	Carolina	353	119	234
Valeri Nichushkin	Ottawa	367	135	232
Warren Foegele	Arizona	376	145	231
Chandler Stephenson	Winnipeg	464	237	227
Joel Eriksson Ek	Columbus	361	153	208
Derek Ryan	St. Louis	460	252	208
Kailer Yamamoto	San Jose	234	28	206
Sammy Blais	San Jose	449	249	200
Zach Sanford	Buffalo	364	165	199
Tyson Jost	Arizona	438	239	199

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I have bolded every guy I wanted who got snagged when I thought I'd be able to get them. The frustration of this game is getting to me

 

[Panda Bear]

With PDO:

David Pastrnak	1
Nathan MacKinnon	2
Brad Marchand	3
Artemi Panarin	4
Leon Draisaitl	5
Sidney Crosby	6
Nikita Kucherov	7
Evgeni Malkin	8
Auston Matthews	9
Tomas Tatar	10
Jake Guentzel	11
Connor McDavid	12
Mika Zibanejad	13
Andrei Svechnikov	14
Mark Stone	15

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Without PDO:

Artemi Panarin	1
David Pastrnak	2
Nathan MacKinnon	3
Brad Marchand	4
Leon Draisaitl	5
Connor McDavid	6
Nikita Kucherov	7
Evgeni Malkin	8
Mika Zibanejad	9
Auston Matthews	10
Jake Guentzel	11
Jack Eichel	12
Sidney Crosby	13
Tomas Tatar	14
Patrice Bergeron	15

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'll say it again as I've said it before: elite players suffer from metrics like DFF% and CF% because they're so good they don't need to generate as many chances to score so many goals. I've weighted DFF and CF to their overall correlation to GF, but! things like PDO still suffer from their increased abilities as they tend to just have better on-ice shooting percentages.

 

[Panda Bear]

We're all aware that I am posting all of these rankings/measures/scores for fun and none of us should be taking them 100% seriously, right?

 

[hockeynorth]

We're all aware that I am posting all of these rankings/measures/scores for fun and none of us should be taking them 100% seriously, right?

Correct but did you not send me one that had Stamkos way up there?

 

[Panda Bear]

Yamamoto at 28? I approve...

Small sample size but he was slaughtering the NHL.

 

[Horse McHindu]

We're all aware that I am posting all of these rankings/measures/scores for fun and none of us should be taking them 100% seriously, right?

Of course. I think all of us are mature enough to take these in good strides. Very interesting findings nonetheless! I’ve actually been really impressed by this draft. I haven’t really seen very many bad picks and all of the teams look pretty good imo.

 

[hockeynorth]

So upon looking at my list I've come to the scientific conclusion that there are no elite defenceman steals left to be taken at this point... and thus I've made the grave error of thinking people would undervalue someone truly special. It may be a costly miscalculation.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

We're all aware that I am posting all of these rankings/measures/scores for fun and none of us should be taking them 100% seriously, right?

Not in a mean spirited way.....but I find it funny that your team has like....170 goals or something.

You'd be near the bottom of the league.

Ergo....don't get too fancy. lol.

 

[OB5]

Who is up right now?

 

[Paralyzer008]

So upon looking at my list I've come to the scientific conclusion that there are no elite defenceman steals left to be taken at this point... and thus I've made the grave error of thinking people would undervalue someone truly special. It may be a costly miscalculation.

I have one guy that I really like from watching him this season - I'll be surprised if someone takes them but if they do, bravo.

 

[Panda Bear]

Not in a mean spirited way.....but I find it funny that your team has like....170 goals or something.

You'd be near the bottom of the league.

Ergo....don't get too fancy. lol.

We'd concede the fewest goals in the league too. We're like an LA Kings 2012.

#hellya

edit: excuse me, but we have 183 goals.

 

[Llamamoto]

We're all aware that I am posting all of these rankings/measures/scores for fun and none of us should be taking them 100% seriously, right?

Absolutely, and I appreciate you sharing all of that with us, as well as the team analysis that you've provided.

 

[hockeynorth]

Honestly my favourite stat to look at has been Corsi Relative because at least I can tell if seines severely outperforming their team. Yes Panda, I know some of my choices still have iffy stats there but they were selected to play a specific role on my team to ensure competitiveness.

 

[Paralyzer008]

We'd concede the fewest goals in the league too. We're like an LA Kings 2012.

#hellya

Ryan Strome is the new Anze Kopitar.

 

[hockeynorth]

I have one guy that I really like from watching him this season - I'll be surprised if someone takes them but if they do, bravo.

Yeah I have someone I reallyyyy like who may be that someone

 

[hockeynorth]

Ryan Strome is the new Anze Kopitar.

And Aston Reese the new Mark Stone

 

[hockeynorth]

Who is up right now? @RIP Botchford is not Toronto is he?

@JonnyGraz is up with Arizona and has 13 minutes remaining

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

We'd concede the fewest goals in the league too. We're like an LA Kings 2012.

#hellya

edit: excuse me, but we have 183 goals.

 

[Panda Bear]

actually, on a prorated 82 game season, my team's looking at 233 goals over the season without a full roster.

maybe we're the 2019 islanders.

 

[hockeynorth]

I'm looking to trade up if possible

 

[Horse McHindu]

So upon looking at my list I've come to the scientific conclusion that there are no elite defenceman steals left to be taken at this point... and thus I've made the grave error of thinking people would undervalue someone truly special. It may be a costly miscalculation.

You know the draft is thin on defensemen when you’re keeping your fingers crossed hoping that no one steals Jake McCabe, lol (someone took him earlier by the way which once again caused me mental problems). You might find some hidden gems on defense but I think for the most part, your best bets are past their prime vets or guys that haven’t entered their primes yet.

 

[hockeynorth]

You know the draft is thin on defensemen when you’re keeping your fingers crossed hoping that no one steals Jake McCabe, lol (someone took him earlier by the way which once again caused me mental problems). You might find some hidden gems on defense but I think for the most part, your best bets are past their prime vets or guys that haven’t entered their primes yet.

Yeah I have a few on the LD side I like, which is strange cause earlier on I had way more on the RD side that I trusted. But nothing really in total steal territory, other than one I have my eye on and expect to be long gone

 

[Horse McHindu]

And Aston Reese the new Mark Stone

ZAR has been referred to as the defensive version of Evgeni Malkin (I cant remember the exact stat, but some analyst using advanced stats showed that ZAR is as dominating on the defensive side of things as Malkin has been in the offensive zone).

While I don’t think ZAR will ever have “hands of Stone” (pun intended), I think he’ll be one of the best defensive players in the NHL for a long time.

 

[Panda Bear]

Do I even need a bonafide #1C if I have Panarin?

Panarin-Strome-Buchnevich
Kreider-Danault-Nichushkin
Calvert-Eller-Grimaldi

Slavin-Weegar
Scandella-Shattenkirk
McCabe-Rutta

Hellebuyck

 

[Paralyzer008]

Do I even need a bonafide #1C if I have Panarin?

Cup winners no.1 C since 2006:

2006: E. Staal
2007: Getzlaf
2008: Zetterberg/Datsyuk
2009: Malkin/Crosby
2010: Toews
2011: Krejci/Bergeron
2012: Kopitar
2013: Toews
2014: Kopitar
2015: Toews
2016: Crosby/Malkin
2017: Malkin/Crosby
2018: Backstrom/Kuznetsov
2019: O'Reilly

That answers your question.