Player Discussion Elias Pettersson, Pt. XII

[VanJack]

Welcome to the last 20 games of every NHL season.....the refs put the whistle away; the physical play and marginal hits ramp up; and players like Pettersson may as well skate around with a huge target strapped on their backs.

Obviously he's still feeling the effects of that late, cheap shot in Boston. Now Boeser looks like he's gone for awhile....and if anything happens to Pettersson or Hughes, they may as well turn out the lights at Rogers Arena. And rest assured, there are desperate teams who will do whatever it takes....even if it means targeting the best players on the opposition team.

So Green van vent all he wants to in the post-game presser.....but unless there's a push-back out on the ice, it won't matter.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Poor guy. He’s getting frustrating and pushing back . When does he end up fighting to protect himself cause no one else will?

can we find more Kesler and Bieksa types already ?

Just like it was with the Sedins, it is with Pettersson. In the end, it’s on him to fight through it and excel. No amount of “push back” from rats or goons is going to matter if he wilts against contact.

I’m not looking for anyone to come to his aid. I want him to learn, as Zetterberg and Datsyuk had to learn, the added attention is in their domain to manage.

 

[supercanuck]

I would also like to see us to the same thing to the other team's top players, especially if the refs are not going to call anything. Not injure them but hack/hold/chop/crosscehck/etc.

 

[JimmyJiveJones]

If the canucks set the tone earlier in the season that abusing our young players wont be tolerated maybe Petey wouldnt have to take all the cheap shots that he takes. But every team knows that we dont do a dam thing. Unfortunately points are soo valuable at this point in the season that no one wants to take a retaliatory penalty since the stakes are soo high.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

is EP a top10 player in the league?

I am only like 20 so don't remember the hype around the sedins were drafted and I know they started off slow. Is EP protential the best we have ever had in terms of a young player?

we haven’t seen petey at the level of bure ages 21 and 22 yet (bure at 21 is in line with what we’ve seen so far from petey imo). but that doesn’t mean he won’t get there.

 

[Bougieman]

They were commenting on Hockey Night in Canada how shocked they were that the Flames were going at Petey they way they were, and there was NO response from anyone on the Canucks to protect their currently-fragile superstar. They seemed sort of shocked. Meanwhile, we're so used to it that it barely registered a raised eyebrow here. THIS IS NOT NORMAL ON OTHER TEAMS.

 

[EP40 AKA Lil Wayne]

EP needs to start slashing, take that penalty. A broken finger will register some caution in the opps.

 

[TraderJim]

They were commenting on Hockey Night in Canada how shocked they were that the Flames were going at Petey they way they were, and there was NO response from anyone on the Canucks to protect their currently-fragile superstar. They seemed sort of shocked. Meanwhile, we're so used to it that it barely registered a raised eyebrow here. THIS IS NOT NORMAL ON OTHER TEAMS.

We watched our star player get repeatedly punched in the face while doing absolutely nothing and end up with a penalty in the Stanley Cup Finals. This type of thing has been a normality for this team for awhile now.

 

[Star Ocean]

Looks a lot like last year for Pettersson. Over PPG at most of the season just to slip at the end.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Just like it was with the Sedins, it is with Pettersson. In the end, it’s on him to fight through it and excel. The added attention is in their domain to manage.

Agreed. Being a tougher team to play against would deter players somewhat from being overly aggressive but if I’m an opposing player I’m going at Petey hard and finishing my checks. It’s going to ramp up ten fold in the Playoffs and should be a great learning experience for EP, Hughes & Boeser.

 

[Rey]

Poor guy needs to learn from Bure. Give people the flying elbows.

 

[Windy River]

Is anybody else getting very concerned about Peteys skating? He just seems... hate to say this.. but seems rather weak on his legs.

I know that his game is way more than just skating/speed.. but it seems like this aspect of his game has actually regressed, since he came into the league and particular down the stretch this season.

Sometimes has that ‘newborn deer’ look in his legs. Almost reminds me of me on the ice (leg strength-wise..please.. think Gretzky comparisons..) and that’s not a good look.

 

[whoshouse]

Is anybody else getting very concerned about Peteys skating? He just seems... hate to say this.. but seems rather weak on his legs.

I know that his game is way more than just skating/speed.. but it seems like this aspect of his game has actually regressed, since he came into the league and particular down the stretch this season.

Sometimes has that ‘newborn deer’ look in his legs. Almost reminds me of me on the ice (leg strength-wise..please.. think Gretzky comparisons..) and that’s not a good look.

I think it’s kind of encouraging that he’s still able to dominant the game offensively even with his Bambi legs. Imagine when he fills out and works out those glutes.

 

[Green Blank Stare]

I think it’s kind of encouraging that he’s still able to dominant the game offensively even with his Bambi legs. Imagine when he fills out and works out those glutes.

This is how I look at it. Maybe he'll work out with Hughes this summer and come back drastically improved. That would be frightening.

 

[Windy River]

I think it’s kind of encouraging that he’s still able to dominant the game offensively even with his Bambi legs. Imagine when he fills out and works out those glutes.

Seems like he would benefit massively from some kind of workout regime along with supplements targeted at increasing his thigh and glute muscle mass.

It’s worrying because that type of muscle is quote ‘core’ to the bodies physical makeup, doesn’t seem like something that has a ton of room for effectively bulking. Hope they can find a way.

 

[Hoghandler]

Seems like he would benefit massively from some kind of workout regime along with supplements targeted at increasing his thigh and glute muscle mass.

It’s worrying because that type of muscle is quote ‘core’ to the bodies physical makeup, doesn’t seem like something that has a ton of room for effectively bulking. Hope they can find a way.

I'm actually a glute supplement vendor. He can certainly build this area. If Petey calls for glute supplements, I'm willing to give him 5% off his first purchase.

The guy is probably 5 years away from his physical peak. Wouldn't worry too much about his strength. The fact he's as good as he is without that base, just makes you think the upside is hard to fathom. Especially what it's going to do to his defensive game.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

PPG Center that’s +16 and been very solid defensively. He hasn’t taken shortcuts even when the offensive results haven’t been there like a lot of young players do.

if that’s disappointing I can’t wait to see what else he is capable of as he grows and matures.

 

[Star Ocean]

Only one point in 9 goals. Doing terrible lately. A season to forget.

 

[Star Ocean]

Is anybody else getting very concerned about Peteys skating? He just seems... hate to say this.. but seems rather weak on his legs.

I know that his game is way more than just skating/speed.. but it seems like this aspect of his game has actually regressed, since he came into the league and particular down the stretch this season.

Sometimes has that ‘newborn deer’ look in his legs. Almost reminds me of me on the ice (leg strength-wise..please.. think Gretzky comparisons..) and that’s not a good look.

His skating has always been like that. Hasnt regressed.

 

[LuckyBoeser]

Only one point in 9 goals. Doing terrible lately. A season to forget.

C'mon man. Elias Pettersson is doing just fine unless you based your entire opinion around raw points which is an incredible flaw way to evaluate players especially in small sample size. Elias Pettersson has grown as a two-way forward that is more dangerous at even strength compare to his rookie season. I don't know about you, but I prefer an EP that is effective in both end of the ice. Elias Pettersson is 4th in Evolving Hockey's GAR model. I don't see how this is a "forgetful" season for Pettersson.

 

[Ainec]

He's the most valuable player according to analytics

Hughes is shiny new toy

 

[Regal]

Is anybody else getting very concerned about Peteys skating? He just seems... hate to say this.. but seems rather weak on his legs.

I know that his game is way more than just skating/speed.. but it seems like this aspect of his game has actually regressed, since he came into the league and particular down the stretch this season.

Sometimes has that ‘newborn deer’ look in his legs. Almost reminds me of me on the ice (leg strength-wise..please.. think Gretzky comparisons..) and that’s not a good look.

He needs to work on his balance and strength on his skates for sure, but the rest of his skating is quite good, he just has a very jerky motion and slows the game down a lot so he doesn't always look very fast. I think part of the reason he goes down so easy though is that so much of his game is about trying to catch defenders flat footed by changing direction. If you get caught while trying to change direction quickly and your weight is unevenly distributed, you're more likely to fall down.

 

[Hoghandler]

He's the most valuable player according to analytics

Hughes is shiny new toy

Don't the analytics also say 'shiny new toy' is the best transition dman in the game?

 

[Ainec]

Don't the analytics also say 'shiny new toy' is the best transition dman in the game?

fancy stats say Dougie Hamilton #1 dmen

 

[Jay Cee]

OMG. He just missed a game because he was hurt, it's probably a lingering injury that (very minorly) has slowed down his very good pace.

This fan base is so insecure.