Dylan Strome Appreciation Thread

[AmericanDream]

I would not sign Strome for $5mil a year - we need a much bigger body of work here before we can even get to that point. there really is no rush to sign him, but if we want to sign him early then it better be one hell of a sweet deal like Delia just signed. I mean, we can't get carried away here, the kid just 3 months ago was bouncing back and forth between the AHL/NHL and 3rd/4th line..what he is doing here is exceptional and I believe he can keep it up, but we need these guys to remain hungry and not get rewarded for 2 months of good play. this is exactly what we did with Delia, he has been rewarded but still needs to go out and produce to earn more.

Strome should not get over $3-3.5 mil right now - sign him to a 3 year bridge at that amount as that is even pushing it for me...he needs DeBrincat level of consistency to get anything over that, so if we sign him this year, he gets nothing over this amount..period.

people thought Schmaltz was going to get $6 mil, some of you need to calm down and relax..do not rush into bad deals- we can wait here with him, he is not going to cost us a ton right now.

 

[HomerJLeafs]

Dylan Strome 3rd star of the week according to Nhl.com.
Im so glad hes outta Arizona. Phew.

 

[TheSting]

If Strom and Cat want to keep the BFF going and play together for a long time...each side has to know they need to take a cap friendly deal to make it happen.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If Strom and Cat want to keep the BFF going and play together for a long time...each side has to know they need to take a cap friendly deal to make it happen.

Yeah, that is a good point. They should know the Hawks won't be afraid to ship their asses out of town if they request too much money. They may sign for 1mil cheaper each if they get both deals done at the same time.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Yeah, that is a good point. They should know the Hawks won't be afraid to ship their asses out of town if they request too much money. They may sign for 1mil cheaper each if they get both deals done at the same time.

How about we don't sign overpriced free agents and try to keep our young stars

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I would not sign Strome for $5mil a year - we need a much bigger body of work here before we can even get to that point. there really is no rush to sign him, but if we want to sign him early then it better be one hell of a sweet deal like Delia just signed. I mean, we can't get carried away here, the kid just 3 months ago was bouncing back and forth between the AHL/NHL and 3rd/4th line..what he is doing here is exceptional and I believe he can keep it up, but we need these guys to remain hungry and not get rewarded for 2 months of good play. this is exactly what we did with Delia, he has been rewarded but still needs to go out and produce to earn more.

Strome should not get over $3-3.5 mil right now - sign him to a 3 year bridge at that amount as that is even pushing it for me...he needs DeBrincat level of consistency to get anything over that, so if we sign him this year, he gets nothing over this amount..period.

I get what you're saying that he needs to continue to prove things, but how many average guys put up roughly a point per game over a 30 game sample? That's a pretty tough feat for someone who is just a guy, or an average player. I think you need above average talent to pull that off.

Definitely don't think he has earned $8 million yet, but I'm pretty sure he's proving he has more talent and value than a typical $3 million a year guy.

 

[Hawkaholic]

How about we don't sign overpriced free agents and try to keep our young stars

Yeah, and also, how about we don't over pay our young stars and give them a future NMC.

 

[AmericanDream]

I get what you're saying that he needs to continue to prove things, but how many average guys put up roughly a point per game over a 30 game sample? That's a pretty tough feat for someone who is just a guy, or an average player. I think you need above average talent to pull that off.

Definitely don't think he has earned $8 million yet, but I'm pretty sure he's proving he has more talent and value than a typical $3 million a year guy.

a lot of players do, especially in contract years.

we also have to understand he has been put in one hell of a situation - playing with Kane and then his boy Cat - these are scenarios that have helped him produce. I am not saying he hasn't earned it, but I think some are going overboard here...he has NOT earned a contract over $3-3.5 yet...no way. the guy hasn't even hit 100 NHL games yet. I said IF you want to sign him early, then get him on a sweet deal like I suggested..if not, wait to see if he duplicates it next year then be prepared to offer $5 mil plus...

Schmaltz has taught us to take a breath, relax and wait and see - these kids have ups and downs all the time. we are in zero rush to sign him is my point, if you want to do it now, then it better be a Delia type deal with his limited body of work.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Those weren't bridge deals. The cap was going up to 59mil, that was more than 10% of the cap.

So if Strome finishes this year on pace for 70+ points, then puts up 70+ points next year, wouldn’t he be approaching 10% of the cap territory?

Or at least it’s an argument a smart agent would make.

 

[Hawkaholic]

So if Strome finishes this year on pace for 70+ points, then puts up 70+ points next year, wouldn’t he be approaching 10% of the cap territory?

Or at least it’s an argument a smart agent would make.

He can try, but good luck. I could see Stan doing it, because he seems to just hand out money when it comes to the top players. But he should be playing hardball with a player like Strome, who has zero leverage.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Yeah, and also, how about we don't over pay our young stars and give them a future NMC.

Nobody is trying to overpay him though. Even if he gets paid what he’s worth, it’s going to be cheaper than signing Panarin

 

[Hawkaholic]

Nobody is trying to overpay him though. Even if he gets paid what he’s worth, it’s going to be cheaper than signing Panarin

I'm referring to Stan overpaying on almost every big re-signing this team makes.

 

[BobbyJet]

I would not sign Strome for $5mil a year - we need a much bigger body of work here before we can even get to that point. there really is no rush to sign him, but if we want to sign him early then it better be one hell of a sweet deal like Delia just signed. I mean, we can't get carried away here, the kid just 3 months ago was bouncing back and forth between the AHL/NHL and 3rd/4th line..what he is doing here is exceptional and I believe he can keep it up, but we need these guys to remain hungry and not get rewarded for 2 months of good play. this is exactly what we did with Delia, he has been rewarded but still needs to go out and produce to earn more.

Strome should not get over $3-3.5 mil right now - sign him to a 3 year bridge at that amount as that is even pushing it for me...he needs DeBrincat level of consistency to get anything over that, so if we sign him this year, he gets nothing over this amount..period.

people thought Schmaltz was going to get $6 mil, some of you need to calm down and relax..do not rush into bad deals- we can wait here with him, he is not going to cost us a ton right now.

If I were Stan I'd sign Strome now for as cheaply as possible and get him a skating coach. It's the only thing holding him back; his edges need work and it is most obvious along the boards.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

He can try, but good luck. I could see Stan doing it, because he seems to just hand out money when it comes to the top players. But he should be playing hardball with a player like Strome, who has zero leverage.

Kuznetsov signed for 10% of the cap after putting up a 77 point then 59 point season.

If that gets him 10%, Strome’s agent would be within his right to ask for 10% following two .85 PPG seasons.

To your point, Stan should try to talk him down to 8%.

Still, that’s a $6.56-8.2 million range.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

a lot of players do, especially in contract years.

we also have to understand he has been put in one hell of a situation - playing with Kane and then his boy Cat - these are scenarios that have helped him produce. I am not saying he hasn't earned it, but I think some are going overboard here...he has NOT earned a contract over $3-3.5 yet...no way. the guy hasn't even hit 100 NHL games yet. I said IF you want to sign him early, then get him on a sweet deal like I suggested..if not, wait to see if he duplicates it next year then be prepared to offer $5 mil plus...

Schmaltz has taught us to take a breath, relax and wait and see - these kids have ups and downs all the time. we are in zero rush to sign him is my point, if you want to do it now, then it better be a Delia type deal with his limited body of work.

I just don’t understand why you and other people keep insinuating there’s some type of rush. We’re just discussing IF this is the player he is, then he will get paid when that time comes.

 

[ChiHawks10]

They signed their deals mid-season before they won the Cup, no?

Yeah, you're right, but the point really still stands. It was Toews and Kane. They signed 6m deals, and had accomplished far more. If Strome hits 70 points this season and next, then I'd be prepared to offer him a bigger contract, but right now, he just doesn't have the resume to warrant it.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Kuznetsov signed for 10% of the cap after putting up a 77 point then 59 point season.

If that gets him 10%, Strome’s agent would be within his right to ask for 10% following two .85 PPG seasons.

To your point, Stan should try to talk him down to 8%.

Still, that’s a $6.56-8.2 million range.

Kuznetsov had a much larger sample size of work when he signed (~250GP). Strome by then, would have a season and a half. No way in hell am I giving Strome close to 8mil, I'd have trouble with anything over 6.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Kuznetsov had a much larger sample size of work when he signed (~250GP). Strome by then, would have a season and a half. No way in hell am I giving Strome close to 8mil, I'd have trouble with anything over 6.

Kuznetsov’s sample before those two seasons was high-end third line production, I don’t know how much that helped him.

 

[ChiHawks10]

It’s a different era, bridges are out. Big money deals coming off ELCs are in.

How many examples of that have we seen so far? You're talking superstar status type of players as well. Strome is not that, not yet at least.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Yeah, you're right, but the point really still stands. It was Toews and Kane. They signed 6m deals, and had accomplished far more. If Strome hits 70 points this season and next, then I'd be prepared to offer him a bigger contract, but right now, he just doesn't have the resume to warrant it.

Yep, two .85 + point per game seasons is going to get this guy paid.

He will land somewhere between Larkin and Kuznetsov money, I think.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Kuznetsov’s sample before those two seasons was high-end third line production, I don’t know how much that helped him.

It was still better than what Strome did prior to coming here.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

How many examples of that have we seen so far? You're talking superstar status type of players as well. Strome is not that, not yet at least.

Pastrnak wasn’t exactly a superstar and avoided a bridge.

Ehlers, Horvat, and Drouin also.

 

[AmericanDream]

I just don’t understand why you and other people keep insinuating there’s some type of rush. We’re just discussing IF this is the player he is, then he will get paid when that time comes.

if you are signing him now, you are rushing. he is barely 2 months full-time in the NHL, I don't understand how you can't see this?

 

[RememberTheRoar]

It was still better than what Strome did prior to coming here.

So you’re saying use his Arizona time to try and drive down his cost? I’m not sure how effective that will be when he looks so starkly different in Chicago.

The agent will argue the Arizona time should be dismissed because it’s clear they franchise was limiting Strome’s potential.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

So you’re saying use his Arizona time to try and drive down his cost? I’m not sure how effective that will be when he looks so starkly different in Chicago.

The agent will argue the Arizona time should be dismissed because it’s clear they franchise was limiting Strome’s potential.

If they are signing him this offseason, he'll have just over 100 games played. 48 will be in Ariz. That has to be part of the evaluation. Less so then his time here sure, but it can't be completely disregarded.