Ducks or Hawks: Who matches up better against the Palat-Johnson-Kucherov line?
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Having been demolished by you guys during the season gave most Habs fans a very healthy respect for Tampa early on. The offence was obvious, but it was the defence that impressed me. Big, tough, structured, and very fast. That's the part that will (hopefully) surprise western fans in the SCF. Everybody expects Tampa to score, but not to have their forwards shut down by them.
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I don't buy in to the dominating Tampa Bay mentality. I'd expect a good series, from either team.
But I'm not sure how Tampa Bay's blue line is much faster. That seems a stretch, with a blue line that consists of Fowler, Lindholm, and Vatanen. Not to mention Despres, who is no slouch himself. Neither Stoner or Beauchemin are all that speedy, by any stretch of the imagination, but they still have four skaters with excellent mobility, and one skater in Fowler who deserves to be discussed as one of the top skaters in the league.
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TB shouldn't even show up. They should just be happy with their eastern conference championship and give the cup to the winner of tonights game. It will be a easy sweep for either team.
Vasilevskiy
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You're not sure because it's not true
Anaheim's blue line is faster (doesn't mean that it's better... I actually think they're quite even).
Sojourn
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You're not sure because it's not true
Anaheim's blue line is faster (doesn't mean that it's better... I actually think they're quite even).
Yeah, like I said, I don't buy into the whole West >> East talk. Tampa has a damn good team. These last four teams were the four best, I think, and I think any of them is capable of winning it all. Obviously one team is gone, and after tonight we'll be down another... but it's close. I just don't see how it isn't.
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I think Tampa actually has a fighting chance here. And I do think the west is superior. It all depends on which bishop shows up
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As far as the thread topic goes...
Yes, I believe a Saad-Toews-Hossa or Desjardin-Kruger-Shaw line will shut down whatever Tampa has to offer.
These "respect us!" posts need to go away. I think the Hawks and Ducks are better than the Bolts and the winner of tonight will win the cup. It won't be as easy as last year with LA/NYR where everyone except Rangers fans knew the Kings would destroy them, but the two Western teams are better. It's ok to have that opinion, you don't need to throw tantrums when someone thinks your team isn't the best and you don't need validation from the Internet and Hockey Writers/Broadcasters.
Yes, I believe a Saad-Toews-Hossa or Desjardin-Kruger-Shaw line will shut down whatever Tampa has to offer.
These "respect us!" posts need to go away. I think the Hawks and Ducks are better than the Bolts and the winner of tonight will win the cup. It won't be as easy as last year with LA/NYR where everyone except Rangers fans knew the Kings would destroy them, but the two Western teams are better. It's ok to have that opinion, you don't need to throw tantrums when someone thinks your team isn't the best and you don't need validation from the Internet and Hockey Writers/Broadcasters.
bert
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I am neutral and i disagree with your post but that doesnt mean it wont happen either. I dont think its very logical if you have watched the teams closely, but like you said we are all entitled to our own opinions. I mean Nashville managed to score a decent amount on Chicago but you dont think Tampa will?.... Think about that for a second.
I dont see any tantrums in this thread, i see Tampa as being disrespected by a bunch of fans of western teams and normal human reactions to illogical arrogance.
I think that the west is typically stronger than the east, but I think that it's WAY overblown. And I'd agree that any of the final four should believe that they can win the cup.
I'm hopeful that Chicago pulls it out, obviously, but I also know that Tampa has played Chicago hard for years, and in games where they're slow to start, speed can give them fits. For examples, look at games against Edmonton.
As a fan of the Blackhawks, I'm obviously hoping for them to raise the cup again. As a fan of hockey, I'm glad that it'll be a great series regardless.
McOvechking
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Jeez, I really hope the Lightning come out and win the cup. The amount of people in here who are closed minded to the idea that we could have a competitive final is astounding.
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I can guarantee you'll be respecting Tampa by the end of the Finals. That is, if you watch them -- you clearly didn't watch them last year.
As you can clearly see almost all of them are fans of team in the "west". Tampa went 2-0 vs the Ducks this year scoring 9 goals and won both games. They also went 1-1 vs the Hawks scoring 6 goals compared to the Hawks 3.
My guess is the vegas odds will be much closer then the "experts" on this forum expect but then again how many of these HF "experts" will put money where their mouth is.
When your team is knocked out I guess you need to grasp on to something.
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So it's black and white then? Either pick Tampa to win or you're being arrogant and disrespectful. Eloquent discussion so far boys.
The Ducks will just beat them physically......
The Hawks -- They wont care and the elite Toews line will just shut them down, whilte the bottom 6 tears Tampa apart, and even then the Hawks top 6 will school a bunch of rookies...
The final 4 was great but the Hawks will win in 4-5 games and the Ducks could do it if they have the energy to do the same....
Either way the Hawks or Ducks will seriously destroy Tampa.... I'm not even attempting to troll this is just honesty.
I don't believe Tampa really understands what they're getting into.
No one has been to completely shut down the TKO line all year, what makes you the Ducks or Hawks will be able to with inferior goalies compared to Price or Lundy and the Hawks moreso relying on their top 4 defense like crazy?
Because the Ducks will beat them into snott bubbles and the Hawks will welcome the run and gun style, oh and the Hawks know how to defend against a fun fast scoring line because they defend against guys like Kane, Toews, Hossa, Saad, Sharp TT etc... Not to mention the Hawks have 2 lines that can run and gun, then another two that can score and retain control...
One team can beat the snott bubbles out of Tampa will still having a scoring line and the other can just out score Tampa by running 2 elite scoring lines and 2 ginder lines that will in turn shut you down.... Tampa doesn't have the coaching strategy or the players in the roles they need to shut the other down.
Sure, Tampa has a chance but I don't even think it's possible - but highly unlikely.
The Ducks and Hawks just have dimensions that Tampa cant handle.
Sure, Tampa has a chance but I don't even think it's possible - but highly unlikely.
The Ducks and Hawks just have dimensions that Tampa cant handle.
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Please show me what Tampa can put up against a Toews or Kesler line?
I'm not talking about scoring I'm talking about Toews or Kesler shutting down your top line which they will easily do.
Now that your big line is gone what does Tampa have?
The SCF will be fun.
When the Hawks played Boston and Philly they could match up against the Hawks, Tampa cant, and I don't think the Ducks would have a problem either.
