SpeakingOfTheDevils
Devils Advocate
How can you jump the conclusions that Santini isn't very good, he barely played in the NHL
... from watching him?
How can you jump the conclusions that Santini isn't very good, he barely played in the NHL
... from watching him?
^^^And when he played last year he was arguably our worst dman. Obviously the situation didn’t help him but last year he was horrible.
That said, I think he’s going to be OK. I mean the team brought him back on a deal so they like him enough to do that.
... from watching him?
Santini had less then 50 games played when Hynes thought it was a good idea to put him on the first pairing, going against top competition.
I mean Greene was also his partner and he was getting demolished too. Severson stopped going against top competition for a reason, because he can't handle it and also did not look good at all doing it.
Don't get me wrong, Severson and Greene as a second pairing are doing well this year.
Bottom line is Santini was put in a spot that not many would succeed with so little experience.
With how shallow the Oilers are at wing (and it’s laughably bad - go look at their lineup in San Jose last night), I have a hard time seeing them trading Puljujärvi for cheap.
And that’s not really a guy I’d overpay for in a trade. I’d rather pay more and get a more established player.
a lot of my faith has been vacuumed from my soul this season. already.
i am so miserable.
watching the devils is back to feeling like work.
I am missing the point of your post. Teams do in fact trade for rentals/pending UFA's at the trade deadline. The "logic" was looking at it from Duchene's perspective. If he chooses to not sign the contract Ottawa is offering him, why would he want to give up his chance to test the free agent market to come to NJ? It is irrelevant to discuss NJ trading for an extended Duchene unless you can come up with a reason for him to come to NJ and give up his right to test the FA market if he chooses not to sign with Ottawa.By that logic nobody would want to trade for a pending UFA...
It's why I got so pissed off in the preseason
I saw the lack of compete and other concerns, I thought we would continue our trajectory and my hopes got squashed in September
Played about 3000 minutes of 5v5 overall.Interesting. Good work looking up the stats (I'm too lazy and my phone is a piece of ****). Who did he play with the most at 5v5 during that stretch?
Agreed. I would also mention that forwards tend to develop quicker than D. If we get a lottery pick it is much easier to draft a forward that can put up the 22 goals that Nylander put up last year than it would be to draft a DMan playing at Seversons level.If you have to make the team worse to get the player you want that in a year you need to trade more assets to fix it, then you made a bad trade.
Trading Severson creates a hole so big on D you could drive a semi through it. Any positives brought on by Nylander would be washed out by the overall net negative of that D.
Our forward situation is not so dire we need to blast holes in our thin D to bolster it. I get the trend lately is to dismiss certain guys as lesser trash to make it look more dire, but that doesn’t make it true.
Yeah, the Devils limped right out of the preseason into winning 4 games, many of them in dominant fashion. Get out of here with this retconning nonsense.
Okay this is wacky. I had a chat recently with someone in the hockey media. Everyone here knows him. I can't say who it is but lets say everyone finds him annoying.
I joked saying "anything happening with the Devils you can tell me about?" He says a few times he shouldn't say anything. Finally I pry it out and he tells me that the Flyers and Devils are discussing Schneider for Simmonds.
Probably not one for one... but that is crazy.
Okay this is wacky. I had a chat recently with someone in the hockey media. Everyone here knows him. I can't say who it is but lets say everyone finds him annoying.
I joked saying "anything happening with the Devils you can tell me about?" He says a few times he shouldn't say anything. Finally I pry it out and he tells me that the Flyers and Devils are discussing Schneider for Simmonds.
Probably not one for one... but that is crazy.
Okay this is wacky. I had a chat recently with someone in the hockey media. Everyone here knows him. I can't say who it is but lets say everyone finds him annoying.
I joked saying "anything happening with the Devils you can tell me about?" He says a few times he shouldn't say anything. Finally I pry it out and he tells me that the Flyers and Devils are discussing Schneider for Simmonds.
Probably not one for one... but that is crazy.
That would be pretty remarkable if it happened, for a number of reasons.Okay this is wacky. I had a chat recently with someone in the hockey media. Everyone here knows him. I can't say who it is but lets say everyone finds him annoying.
I joked saying "anything happening with the Devils you can tell me about?" He says a few times he shouldn't say anything. Finally I pry it out and he tells me that the Flyers and Devils are discussing Schneider for Simmonds.
Probably not one for one... but that is crazy.
Mueller-Vatanen
Smith-Santini
Greene-Butcher
Could be the defense next year, and I like the look of it. I think Santini will end up a defensive rock, and hopefully can allow Smith to do what he does best. It balances the lines as well, as Severson isnt as defensive as Santini.
And no im not saying Santini is better as of now, I just think he could be and fits our needs better. Also prevents a logjam for as early as next season.
I didn't but I'm going to try to get him on the podcast. I feel like he would do it.Hope you recorded the conversation
Haha it's not him but you're close. I just checked and this person actually doesn't have Twitter which is surprising.
I'm sure it's not him, I just needed an excuse to drop this gif in.
Did you sign a secrecy agreement or something.Haha it's not him but you're close. I just checked and this person actually doesn't have Twitter which is surprising.
I'm treading a fine line between not wanting to say who it is so I am not seen as a blabbermouth and I can get these people to come on my podcast..... and the fact that I pretty much told everyone who it is with my hint in my original post. Someone messaged me right away and guessed it. It's easy lolDid you sign a secrecy agreement or something.
I agree he was thrown to the wolves, but what’s being suggested here is to similarly throw him into a second pairing role after moving Severson for Nylander.
It’s a ridiculous suggestion.
Not to mention - if Santini falters, we’d have only one legit defenseman for the right side. (Don’t say Lovejoy, and don’t say Butcher)