Waived: Dano on waivers (Mod: Claimed by the Avs)

[Gabe Kupari]

Maybe Dano is massively overrated and isnt as good as some think he is .

 

[DashingDane]

Maybe Dano is massively overrated and isnt as good as some think he is .

Don’t think anyone is under the illusion that he is a top 6 player but I certainly think he is a useable asset. Even if that means sitting in the press box...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

WTF? I don't get the logic of waiving a guy when you have 2 guys in Lemieux and KV who can go down without requiring waivers. This year was supposed to be Dano's chance.

Now it seems like the best asset we are going to get out of the Ladd trade is just the capspace.

Can you even claim to have gained cap space when an aging player goes to UFA? Just asking. I suppose when you know he was offered a contract you can consider it but it just seems like natural passage of time.

 

[Lempo]

Why would the Jets agree to such a condition?

To get him to sign now instead of going to KHL for bigger salary and them make a Tolvanen-like show of himself so he could ask a bonus-heavy $3M AAV ELC like Tolv did.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

That is not "clear" at all.

How is it not clear? Why isn't clear, but that it is, is clear.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Over another guy with no bonus? How does that work? It still will kill a year of his ELC and get him to UFA a year quicker if it keeps up. Not to mention that it would make him eligible for the XD if that is delayed a year. The timing of that is not written in stone yet.

but if he had a performance bonus...

It was suggested when he signed that the lack of one this season was an early indicator he was making the team.

 

[JetsFan815]

Can you even claim to have gained cap space when an aging player goes to UFA? Just asking. I suppose when you know he was offered a contract you can consider it but it just seems like natural passage of time.

Well I was trying to look at the positives. If you want to go all Nietzsche on that trade then it was- Andrew Ladd + 2nd round pick for Logan Stanley and Luke Green

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'm wondering why columbus let him go more than anything, 21 points in 35 games on his +1 year from the draft as a low 1st rounder.

They didn't 'let him go'. He made up part of the value in the Saad trade.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

but if he had a performance bonus...

It was suggested when he signed that the lack of one this season was an early indicator he was making the team.

The choice is him playing this year for no bonus or him not playing this year for no bonus. I'm completely missing the connection with that suggestion or else it was an ill thought out suggestion. It might be different if he was delivering more than he is costing, but it is the exact opposite of that.

3-4 years from now will we be wondering if he was rushed into the NHL? How many times do we hear that about a player who was played in the NHL before he was ready and who later fails to live up to expectations?

Contract provisions or not, he is not more ready than Lemieux, Petan or Dano. Now Dano has been exposed to waivers in order to keep him playing 7 min/gm. He is probably learning and getting better, but is he doing so faster/better than he would be doing playing 20 min/gm in the AHL, or even 15 in the KHL? And even if he is, is that worth what it is costing? His presence is holding back the 4th line and screwing around with our depth players.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well I was trying to look at the positives. If you want to go all Nietzsche on that trade then it was- Andrew Ladd + 2nd round pick for Logan Stanley and Luke Green

OK, you put it that way and I do that trade all day.

 

[Inflict]

Wish Dano would have been given a better shot in this organization. Conditioning issues aside, he had skill to his game and was an agitator (a shit talker mostly) who rarely crossed the line. I don't think he will clear waivers but you never know.

 

[Daximus]

I'd be surprised if he doesn't get claimed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Asset management is key but so is people/individual management. I wanted Dano to succeed here but the fact of the matter for me is we also have to manage an organization of individuals. I’d say this sends a pretty good message that sometimes when the org feels it’s time for a player to stay regardless of waiver status we will reward players with an NHL roster spot if they’ve put in the work and earned it. In this case clearly the org feels that way in regards to Lemieux > Dano.

I don't see Lemieux as having anything to do with this. It is keeping KV on the roster for no apparent reason vs waiving Dano. Keeping KV is a pretty obvious no-brainer.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

The choice is him playing this year for no bonus or him not playing this year for no bonus. I'm completely missing the connection with that suggestion or else it was an ill thought out suggestion. It might be different if he was delivering more than he is costing, but it is the exact opposite of that.

3-4 years from now will we be wondering if he was rushed into the NHL? How many times do we hear that about a player who was played in the NHL before he was ready and who later fails to live up to expectations?

Contract provisions or not, he is not more ready than Lemieux, Petan or Dano. Now Dano has been exposed to waivers in order to keep him playing 7 min/gm. He is probably learning and getting better, but is he doing so faster/better than he would be doing playing 20 min/gm in the AHL, or even 15 in the KHL? And even if he is, is that worth what it is costing? His presence is holding back the 4th line and screwing around with our depth players.

I agree that K-Ves shouldn't be playing on the Jets right now. He should be adapting to the North American style in the AHL, getting heavy minutes. Was simply pointing out that it's not normal for a 1st round pick to have a contract containing NO performance bonus' for his first year. The only reason to have omitted it would be to save the Jets as much as $850,000 should he make the team. Lempo brought this up back in September in a discussion with KingBogo.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I like Lemieux over all 3 of these guys - haven't seen a ton of him but from what I have seen, he brings it.
You just know Maurice is going to like this guy and work to get him into the line up - I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the 4th and KV down for development.

Well, if that is what is going to happen then why waive Dano? There's plenty of ammunition to argue Lemmy over Dano or Dano over Lemmy. There doesn't seem to be any to argue waiving Dano to keep either KV or Lemmy though.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

It appears Jet fans may never get to play that game of:

"Marco"....
"Dano"....

many of us have waited for.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I agree that K-Ves shouldn't be playing on the Jets right now. He should be adapting to the North American style in the AHL, getting heavy minutes. Was simply pointing out that it's not normal for a 1st round pick to have a contract containing NO performance bonus' for his first year. The only reason to have omitted it would be to save the Jets as much as $850,000 should he make the team. Lempo brought this up back in September in a discussion with KingBogo.

Yes - to the bolded. But it shouldn't mean that he gets a free pass on to the team.

It makes the decision to keep him less costly than it would be if he had a bonus. It doesn't make it less costly than keeping some other, cheaper, better player.

 

[tbcwpg]

Well I was trying to look at the positives. If you want to go all Nietzsche on that trade then it was- Andrew Ladd + 2nd round pick for Logan Stanley and Luke Green

Haha you've made that trade look even better than it was by that summary.

 

[ecolad]

I don't see Lemieux as having anything to do with this. It is keeping KV on the roster for no apparent reason vs waiving Dano. Keeping KV is a pretty obvious no-brainer.

Think you`ve got this right. I suggest that the choice made reflects how much influence Maurice has in these decisions. But not sure what`s really at play - either Maurice`s complete disdain for anything Dano eek , or on the flip side, Maurice`s infatuation with KV`s style of play ,and his sense that KV will nicely fill a "role" in his imagined lineup in relatively short order. Suggests to me that management might plan to keep KV here longer than most think.

 

[The Big M]

Why is Chevy giving away young players when he doesn't have to?

You can't keep holding onto to assets just to say, "Hey! We have the most assets!"
At some point management has to make a decision.
They've decided to put their faith in Lemieux and Petan. Maybe they're wrong.
Maybe they're right.
But I for one like this move.

 

[untouchable21]

For those that voted no...who claims him?

Going with Arizona.

I’m guessing Detroit, maybe Vancouver.

 

[The Blue Baron]

Marco who? Is he still a Jet? I guess not much longer..

 

[lanky]

The timing of this move makes it clear that Chevy respects Dano and won't get in the way of his career. This move isn't done to facilitate another. It's just a sign that a decision has been made and they're not going to string him along.

 

[Ducky10]

You can't keep holding onto to assets just to say, "Hey! We have the most assets!"
At some point management has to make a decision.
They've decided to put their faith in Lemieux and Petan. Maybe they're wrong.
Maybe they're right.
But I for one like this move.

Petan I understand, absolutely no reason to flush Dano right now in favour of Lemieux or Ves. Neither of those players have screamed can't keep me out of the lineup and both have options.

Dano may never have value but there is no way they need to potentially give him up for nothing right now, unless Chevy feels that strongly he'll pass through.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I’m guessing Detroit, maybe Vancouver.

Detroit a good fit as well. They are a little pressed to the cap to be on the waiver wire, but I guess grabbing his contract at a near league minimum is affordable to any team.

A shame Chevy doesn't get that. Isn't Dano. At $800,000 a steal?