Coyotes Reverse Retro Jersey Discussion

[rt]

From what I understand they will be worn a few times during the season.

They're also our opening night uniforms.

Imagine they left out the cactus. It’s immediately 100x better. I still would “like” the trim per se, but I f***ing DESPITE those stupid clip art cacti.

 

[Imaravencawcaw]

From what I understand they will be worn a few times during the season.

They're also our opening night uniforms.

The socks actually make the jersey look a million times better. Purple, orange, and black really bring back memories of those badass Suns jerseys from the glory days.

 

[RemoAZ]

From what I understand they will be worn a few times during the season.

They're also our opening night uniforms.

 

[rt]

The socks actually make the jersey look a million times better. Purple, orange, and black really bring back memories of those badass Suns jerseys from the glory days.

I like the socks and pants. I like the sleeves. I like the primary purple focus. And I like the Kachina head logo. I hate the trim and I think the lizards are pointless and random. The bottom trim should be some kind of native clay pot design pattern to tie in the lizard petroglyph design. The clipart cacti are pure trash. And the lizards are pointless without some design element that makes sense of them.

 

[CLW]

If you look at the shirt as a whole the cacti landscape is not important as such, it's barely noticeable. But the cacti landscape is part of what makes the Peyote shirt brilliant, by far the best shirt out of all these retros. This shirt is the only one that manages to break out of the conventional (and predictably boring) and create art, it even achieves the metaphysical!

Without the cacti landscape the shirt would have too much purple and the Coyote head would be lessened. Now the Coyote appears as a spirit totem on the night sky above the desert on a background of Imperial Purple (the color of the Roman Emperors). The cacti landscape's golden sand tones balances nicely against the purple and helps frame and put the focus on the coyote. They could have gone with some boring sand colored sleeves and rims without the landscape, but the shirt would have been lessened and lost the story and overall impact. Now the Coyote, the main symbol, is iconic and totem like.

This shirt is an instant design classic!

 

[rt]

Here's eliminating the cacti, and then just adding solid color. I think the right solution is some stylized trim in a native amarican pattern. But I'm using MS Paint and didn't want to spend more than five minutes.

 

[rt]

If you look at the shirt as a whole the cacti landscape is not important as such, it's barely noticeable. But the cacti landscape is part of what makes the Peyote shirt brilliant, by far the best shirt out of all these retros. This shirt is the only one that manages to break out of the conventional (and predictably boring) and create art, it even achieves the metaphysical!

Without the cacti landscape the shirt would have too much purple and the Coyote head would be lessened. Now the Coyote appears as a spirit totem on the night sky above the desert on a background of Imperial Purple (the color of the Roman Emperors). The cacti landscape's golden sand tones balances nicely against the purple and helps frame and put the focus on the coyote. They could have gone with some boring sand colored sleeves and rims without the landscape, but the shirt would have been lessened and lost the story and overall impact. Now the Coyote, the main symbol, is iconic and totem like.

This shirt is an instant design classic!

It's not the concept of the landscape, it's the execution. It looks like absolute shit. Clipart garbage. See how they made the Gilia Monster? Does it look like a clipart Gila Monster? Nope. It's stylized and cool as hell. Make the mountains and cactus look like the Gila Monster, and suddenly you have a good design that's actually cohesive. The desert landscape as designed make ZERO sense. There's absolutely no design cohesion.

 

[Canis Latrans]

I don't like the landscape either. It looks like the background from a Mario game, which is retro, but I speculated that it'd make for a mess of clashing styles and it has. It's the mullet of jerseys, kind of formal up top and then party down at the waist. The sock pattern somewhat reminds me of purple Team Germany.

I guess it's fine for an alternative jersey, but if they want to take some inspiration from this and apply it to a brand new main jersey, I think you want to ditch the landscape for the Southwestern patterned striping. One other thing I do like about these is the lack of white on the edging. Instead they've used the sand/cream tone. Hopefully they continue that on any new away jerseys as the white doesn't look good with the Coyotes' color palette.

 

[BigMac1212]

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They are beautiful.

Birthday/Christmas present confirmed!

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I like them as they are. I like the green cactus as another color involved in the trim. Yah I agree with RT the design of the cacti is a bit like clip Art but these were originally made in the 90s. They're unique and different, I'm a huge fan.

Also love the purple. IDC if the Sun's also wear purple. It looks good. It's also an original color of the team. The purple moon logo is pretty iconic for the franchise. These are going to look great on opening night with the moon at center ice.

 

[Jormungandr]

Ugly. The whole “reverse retro” thing is dumb to begin with though.

 

[Jakey53]

Man I hope those don't become the permanent colors. I can't take any more let downs from this damn organization.

Can't make everyone happy. I say wait until you see them in person to decide.

 

[Jakey53]

From what I understand they will be worn a few times during the season.

They're also our opening night uniforms.

I'm starting to like the purple more and more. All of our uniforms have messy trims. Clean that up, and with our unique logo, we could have one of the best selling jersey's in the league.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

The biggest issue I had with the "classic" third jersey that this is based on was the awful, awful green color they used as the jersey base. The purple fixes it. Love it.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

The biggest issue I had with the "classic" third jersey that this is based on was the awful, awful green color they used as the jersey base. The purple fixes it. Love it.

Don't know if I love it, but the purple does indeed fix it. The predecessor was terrible imo.

 

[CLW]

Here's eliminating the cacti, and then just adding solid color. I think the right solution is some stylized trim in a native amarican pattern. But I'm using MS Paint and didn't want to spend more than five minutes.

I agree with this. The cacti just don't work like they are. The current cacti are what makes the shirt fugly (if brilliant). Stylized cacti, angular to fit the Coyote head and Gila, or even just abstract green angular colors, would work so much better. Without green the sand gold field is a bit too bland imo so getting rid of the green touch diminishes the overall impact.

 

[rt]

I agree with this. The cacti just don't work like they are. The current cacti are what makes the shirt fugly (if brilliant). Stylized cacti, angular to fit the Coyote head and Gila, or even just abstract green angular colors, would work so much better. Without green the sand gold field is a bit too bland imo so getting rid of the green touch diminishes the overall impact.

The problem with Orange sand field being to bland is it being just a f***ing sand field. Lol. It’s stupid.

Imagine it being a Hopi clay pot design. The Kachina is a Hopi tradition. Google imagine Hopi Clay Pot, Hopi Woven Basket, or Hopi Weaving Pattern. There’s a ton of great stuff. The Gila Monster reminds me of a Hopi Petroglyph. You could add some of that to the trim. Use these designs as inspiration to come up with a bottom trim that ties in the petroglyph lizards, with the Kachina doll Coyote, and the overall color scheme.

I have three graphic designers in my agency that could get me something vastly superior to this by the end of the day today if I just offered them a bottle of whisky and an Uber Eats coupon for $25 bucks.

 

[SniperHF]

I don't like the old or the new one

At least it's just a gimmicky part time jersey.

Moon returning is like 100/10 decision though and one that should have been made years ago. When we were heavily using the red, it coulda been red like it was in the logos on the walls. Now back to purple with the return of the old kits. They even had that whole raise the moon shtick during the intro a couple years ago.

 

[Heldig]

It would be cool to see a version with the stylized cactus. Overall, I kind of like them, especially as an alternative jersey. Definitely unique AND the best logo in hockey!

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Just an FYI that the HockeyGuy ranked Arizona as the best retro jersey. 1st time in the HockeyGuy's existence on his channel that he's selected Arizona first for anything. In the best Carl Spackler voice "so we've got that going for us, which is nice".

 

[TheLegend]

 

[moosemeister]

Purple and copper goodness

 

[Mosby]

Some teams did really well with this, Arizona included I think.

Some teams did absolutely terrible. Toronto and Detroit come to mind. Then teams like NYI didn't seem to do anything??

 

[Tanic]

Moon returning is like 100/10 decision though and one that should have been made years ago.

The center ice moon was removed from America West Arena after numerous visiting teams complained that they were losing the puck in the purple paint. Guess everyone forgot.

 

[rt]

Some teams did really well with this, Arizona included I think.

Some teams did absolutely terrible. Toronto and Detroit come to mind. Then teams like NYI didn't seem to do anything??

Arizona seems to have really got the point and nailed the delivery with the specific goal in mind. These were supposed to be whacky. Then you have Detroit. Whoa.