waffledave
waffledave, from hf
Kids seems to not be affected all that much. That's what the science says.
Ok. My kid is really important to us though so we're going to do our thing, thanks.
Kids seems to not be affected all that much. That's what the science says.
But you act like you more than care with your lecturing and fear.
No, it's a belief. A belief that will be supported by the facts or it won't.Who is to say who is opening up to early or not quick enough...thats purely an opinion.
Rates going down... is a comparitive measurement from the insanity of last year.I admire my Canadian friends but the world I live in right or wrong sees things much differently and I am ok with 100% capacity without masks in restaurants. I went to 4 establishments today and no one had a mask on. Maybe it will backfire and have a bad impact on me and my community in the end but the alternative of living under a curfew is not an option for us down here.
Everything is open and cases are down....
Everytime I speak to my sister who lives in Ontario I sense she is becoming more and more disconnected. I was stunned when she told me 2 of her neighbors each got fined 850.00 for walking around in their neighborhood.Mental health, addictions, suicides, lost careers, lost businesses. Everything must be taken into account.
AND lock downs had a negligible effect if any and you still had all of the above.
not worth it.
I refuse to live my only life in a fetal position. Sounds harsh but I would rather die than to live locked down...thats not livingNo, it's a belief. A belief that will be supported by the facts or it won't.
It's not an opinion where you talk about your favourite ice cream flavour. This will be borne out by the numbers over the next few weeks.
Rates going down... is a comparitive measurement from the insanity of last year.
At 50 percent full vaccination the numbers will go down pretty significantly. That doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to delay things for a bit. Waiting until Memorial day would yield better long term results because it gives more people time to get their shots.
I get it. Nobody wants to wear a mask. Nobody wants to stay at home... that doesn't mean doing so hasn't been a good idea or that it wouldn't be a good idea to continue doing it for a bit longer.
Totally totally respect where you are coming from and I also respect parents who do what they need to do.Ok. My kid is really important to us though so we're going to do our thing, thanks.
Our kids will be fine. I've got two of them. Sucks that they have to stay home now but it's a small price to pay.Everytime I speak to my sister who lives in Ontario I sense she is becoming more and more disconnected. I was stunned when she told me 2 of her neighbors each got fined 850.00 for walking around in their neighborhood.
The effects of kids not being in school will have an impact for years.
The effects of this disease encompasses way more than the disease itself. Way more damage from other things.
Great.I refuse to live my only life in a fetal position. Sounds harsh but I would rather die to live locked down...thats not living
But keep putting stuff out on the internet with little context.
Why dont you publish death rates for regular flu for children?
Keep telling yourself that. I see the damage being done...kids need to be around each other to learn the basics. They can't spend their lives in front of a computer isolated from their peers.Our kids will be fine. I've got two of them. Sucks that they have to stay home now but it's a small price to pay.
Yeah, you only buy want fits your agenda, that's always been clear.Yeah I don't buy that. Those who are refusing are certainly banking on everyone else protecting them.
They're fine.Keep telling yourself that. I see the damage being done...kids need to be around each other to learn the basics. They can't spend their lives in front of a computer isolated from their peers.
Well that's the difference between our cultures sir...I would rather live free than terrified from a virus that has a 99% + survival rateGreat.
But it's not just you that you're affecting.
RushedI dont even know where to start with you.
Your whole post is nonsense. tell me what the difference is between me saying it was rushed and you using the word "faster". LOL.
You ever wonder why it's not FDA approved and why companies agreed to do it with being exempt from liability?
The vaccine is a success when you take into account the problems with it vs. the reduction in deaths from the vulnerable population. No doubt about it.
But your comment like any other infectious disease ever ?
You are aware I'm sure the last world wide pandemic the Spanish flu that young people actually were the most vulnerable demographic? I'm surprised that as a HF poster you have a hard time grasping the nuances of any infectious disease.
You speaking for all kids or just yours?They're fine.
Everytime I speak to my sister who lives in Ontario I sense she is becoming more and more disconnected. I was stunned when she told me 2 of her neighbors each got fined 850.00 for walking around in their neighborhood.
The effects of kids not being in school will have an impact for years.
The effects of this disease encompasses way more than the disease itself. Way more damage from other things.
Yeah, you only buy want fits your agenda, that's always been clear.
The world isn't black and white man. It's not you being good and people with a different opinion being bad and being out to take advantage of you. They're just not scared of the virus work a low complication rate in healthy individuals.
Long term effects? the study you just linked to had 5 KIDS.
The five children with potential long COVID had a median age of 12 years (range 9-15) and four were girls
Lets vaccinate all children with a vaccine that is under emergency authorization for an illness that largely only affects the obese and those over 65.
How smart!!
that inflammatory sydrome you refer to I believe is also called Kawasaki , it's been around for a long time and it's still relatively rare and you can get it with various exposures.
But keep putting stuff out on the internet with little context.
Why dont you publish death rates for regular flu for children?
You avoided my point.Well that's the difference between our cultures sir...I would rather live free than terrified from a virus that has a 99% + survival rate
There will always be exceptions to the rule.You speaking for all kids or just yours?
What about those kids who live in abusive households whose only escape is school where they also get fed?
I am glad your kids are fine but there are thousands that are not.
You avoided my point.
Freedom is one thing, responsibility is another.
And again, talking about "survival rates" completely ignores the other factors involved. The virus does more than just kill people, it has all kinds of long term complications for people, it re-allocates medical resources.
Freedom is meaningless without responsibility for others.
For most it's just a nuisance. Less then the regular flu.Ok. Best of luck to those people when they inevitably do get COVID. I hope they are 100% asymptomatic.
Compare the US death rates to Canada's. Canada fared much better because it was better at locking things down. As for the economy I don't think we've fared worse than the US has. We just had lower death rates and our hospitals weren't nearly as strained as theirs were.It sure has. Lockdowns have gone way too far.