Problem is really that you think a guy like Umtiti isn't skilled.There's a huge gap between idiots and less skilled/intelligent than Süle & Tah.
Same for your "Rabiot's no Dahoud".
What can I say? Rabiot is very close from world class ALREADY.
Problem is really that you think a guy like Umtiti isn't skilled.There's a huge gap between idiots and less skilled/intelligent than Süle & Tah.
Problem is really that you think a guy like Umtiti isn't skilled.
Same for your "Rabiot's no Dahoud".
What can I say? Rabiot is very close from world class ALREADY.
I don't rate Bakayoko as highly as the others. I'd take Weigl, Dahoud, and Kimmich over the French 22 year old group you've listed.
What's your definition of world class then?
As for Umtiti, saying Tah is more skilled than Umtiti is reaching a whole lot.
What's your definition of world class then?
As for Umtiti, saying Tah is more skilled than Umtiti is reaching a whole lot.
Kinda weird that a Barça starter is being underrated. Umtiti is a much better defender than Tah at the moment, no question about it.
If anyone comes here and reads the comments without seeing those two must be thinking that Süle is the reincarnation of Beckenbauer and Tah is the new Nesta
I voted Germany because they have Kroos, the greatest midfielder of all time.
Who?
The Dutch don't deserve a mention yet. Most of them still need to be full time regulars in desperate need of seasoning. That said, the talent between the ages of 16 and 20 is immense. Perhaps not in high end talent, as I think only a few have elite potential, but moreso in terms of depth. Outstanding depth at every position, only being somewhat thin in goal. Aside from potentially Bijlow there isn't really a gem or much depth there.
Here's my updated top 50 prospect list I've worked on a while back. It contains Eredivisie or Dutch youth born between 1995 and 2001 (ages 16 to 22).
1) Abdelhak Nouri (Ajax - AM - 97) 9C
2) Kasper Dolberg (Ajax - ST - 97) 9C
3) Timothy Forsu Mensah (Ajax/ManU - DM/CB/RB - 98) 8.5B
4) Justin Kluivert (Ajax - LW/RW - 99) 9C
5) Mathijs de Ligt (Ajax - CB - 99) 9B
6) Racheadly Bazoer (Ajax/Wolfsburg - DM/CM - 96) 9C
7) Nathan Aké (Fey/Chelsea - DM/CB/LB - 95) 8B
8) Donyell Malen (Ajax/Arsenal - ST - 99) 8.5C
9) Donny van der Beek (Ajax - AM - 97) 8.5B
10) Davinson Sanches (Ajax - CB - 96) 8.5A
11) Steven Bergwijn (Ajax/PSV - ST - 97) 8.5C
12) Kenny Tete (Ajax - RB - 95) 8A
13) Jaïro Riedewald (Ajax - CB/DM - 96) 8.5B
14) Daishwan Redan (Ajax/ManU - ST - '01) 8.5C
15) Tony Vilhena (Feyenoord - CM - 95) 7.5B
16) Mink Peeters (Ajax/Real Madrid - AM - 98) 8D
17) Frenkie de Jong (Ajax - AM - 97) 8B
18) Vaclac Cerny (Ajax - LW - 97) 8.5B
19) Giovanni Troupee (Utrecht - CB/RB - 98) 7.5B
20) André Onana (Ajax - GK - 96) 8A
21) Julian Lelieveld (Vitesse - RB - 97) 8B
22) Rick Karsdorp (Feyenoord - CB/RB - 95) 8B
23) Jeremiah St. Juste (Heerenveen CB/DM - 96) 7.5B
24) Bart Ramselaar (Utrecht/PSV - CM - 95) 7A
25) Sam Lammers (PSV - ST - 97) 7.5B
26) Bobby Adekanye (Ajax/Barca/Liverpool - LW - 99) 8.5C
27) Tahith Chong (Feyenoord/ManU - RW - 99) 8C
28) Javairo Dilrosun (Ajax/ManCity - 99) 7.5C
29) Ferdi Kadioglu (NEC - CM - 99) 7.5C
30) Juan Familia Castillo (Ajax/Chelsea - CM - '00) 8.5C
31) Anwar El Ghazi (Ajax/Lille - RB - 95) 8E
32) Rick van Drongelen (Sparta - CB - 98) 7.5B
33) Justin Bijlow (Feyenoord - GK - 98) 8C
34) Ricardo Kishna (Ajax/Lille - LB - 95) 6.5C
35) Matteo Casseira (Ajax - ST - 97) 6.5B
36) Dabney dos Santos (AZ - AM - 96) 7B
37) Daley Sinkgraven (Ajax - AM/LB - 95) 7B
38) Mitchell van Bergen (Vitesse - LW/RW - 99) 7B
39) Hidde ter Avest (Twente - CB - 97) 6.5A
40) Justin Hoogma (Heracles - LB/CB - 98) 7B
41) Joël Piroe (Feyenoord/PSV - ST - 99) 7.5C
42) Kevin Diks (Vitesse/Fiorentina - RB - 96) 7B
43) Sherel Floranus (Sparta - RB - 98) 7B
44) Rashaan Fernandes (Feyenoord - W/ST - 98) 8C
45) Jorrit Hendrix (PSV - DM - 95) 5.5A
46) Jeremy Helmer (AZ - AM - 97) 7C
47) Bilal Ould-Chikh (Twente/Benfica/Utrecht - AM - 97) 8F
48) Juninho Bacuna (Groningen - AM - 97) 6C
49) Calvin Verdonk (Feyenoord - CB - 97) 6C
50) Jari Schuurman (Feyenoord - AM - 97) 5.5C
Not ranked:
Gianluca Scamacca (Roma/PSV - ST - 99) Reason: returned to Italy.
Isiah Brown (Chelsea/NAC - AM - 97) Reason: on loan, not a property of an Eredivisie side.
Ines Unal (ManCity/Twente - ST - 97) Reason: on loan, not a property of an Eredivisie side.
Speaking of Troupee, he's been linked to BMG; so any of you guys wanna give a scouting report?
Does anyone know Jari "King" Litmanen from my country?
The Dutch don't deserve a mention yet. Most of them still need to be full time regulars in desperate need of seasoning. That said, the talent between the ages of 16 and 20 is immense. Perhaps not in high end talent, as I think only a few have elite potential, but moreso in terms of depth. Outstanding depth at every position, only being somewhat thin in goal. Aside from potentially Bijlow there isn't really a gem or much depth there.
Here's my updated top 50 prospect list I've worked on a while back. It contains Eredivisie or Dutch youth born between 1995 and 2001 (ages 16 to 22).
1) Justin Kluivert (Ajax - LW/RW - 99) 9.5C
2) Mathijs de Ligt (Ajax - CB - 99) 9B
3) Kasper Dolberg (Ajax - ST - 97) 9C
4) Abdelhak Nouri (Ajax - AM - 97) 9C
5) Dante Rigo (PSV - MF - 98) 9C
6) Steven Bergwijn (PSV - LW/ST - 97) 9C
7) Ferdi Kadioglu (NEC - MF - 99) 9D
8) Timothy Forsu Mensah (Ajax/ManU - DM/CB/RB - 98) 8.5C
9) Donny van de Beek (Ajax - AM - 97) 8.5C
10) Frenkie de Jong (Ajax - AM - 97) 8B
11) Carol Eiting (Ajax - MF - 98) 8B
12) Tony Vilhena (Feyenoord - CM - 95) 8B
13) Jaïro Riedewald (Ajax - CB/DM - 96) 8B
14) Nathan Aké (Fey/Chelsea - DM/CB/LB - 95) 8B
15) Davinson Sanches (Ajax - CB - 96) 8C