Prospect Info: Cole Caufield II (Montreal 15th overall in 2019 draft) mod warning # 560

[xNogaitx]

Who’s this guy?

!?

 

[SOLR]

Has nothing to do with perspective, they are nearly an equal distance from the camera and there shoulders may even be touching.

They are not, Gallagher is in front.

 

[azcanuck]

What was the wilds offer out of curiosity?

My friends a scout and told me but cant say more than that.

 

[montreal]

not that most will care but just learned why Wisconsin is allowed to practice so early,

"Every four years teams can take an international trip which allows them extra practices, which is the case for UW this year"

Is this guy 12, or in his 20s ?

Turcotte going to Wisconsin still ? If he's not, Caufield might have a hard time scoring...

yes as far as I know, I saw he has a jersey number (#15) but it wasn't in the tweet that Wisconsin sent out so I don't know what's up with that. But I heard he was at practice.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

They are not, Gallagher is in front.

I think you are the one who needs to brush up on perspective as I am clearly referring to a point of intersection at the shoulders where they are touching.

 

[SOLR]

I think you are the one who needs to brush up on perspective as I am clearly referring to a point of intersection at the shoulders where they are touching.

You have no way to know if they are touching. Gallagher's shoulder is front of that intersection.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You have no way to know if they are touching. Gallagher's shoulder is front of that intersection.

They don't look to be touching at all to me.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Well, he appears to be able to do that at the level he’s at. Just a fan here, but 80% of the goals I’ve seen him score involved making room for himself. Not perfect passes and just shooting. Just my .02. Be good brother!

I really hope I’m wrong on this one but I wasn’t excited about Caufield before the draft, and wasn’t just his size, it’s cause he reminded me of myself more than any other prospect I’ve seen. I’m about 5’ 8” and have been nothing but a sniper my entire life in hockey - obviously not as great a shot as this kids - but it’s typically amongst the best on any team I played for. I do really well amongst my level of competition, I feast on weaker teams but against tougher teams I disappear more than any of my other teammates. If I play on a line where they’re not trying to get me the puck I disappear as I can’t win puck battles and can’t create offense. No way to say this without sounding like a dick but when I watch his goals I don’t sit there WOW’d cause I don’t see it translating to the NHL

I don’t see him crashing the net like a Gallagher or blazing speed like a Byron to beat d-men, I don’t see him beating a goalie from outside the circles like an Ovi or Laine.

I see him almost like a PP specialist sitting on the backdoor and my fear is Montreal has never been good at giving away top 6 spots or PP time to talented kids and he won’t make it as a bottom 6 player. As I said I’m really hoping I’m wrong and he’s the elite winger we’ve been wanting for decades so I’m ok with the home run swing but I have very tempered expectations

 

[sandviper]

I really hope I’m wrong on this one but I wasn’t excited about Caufield before the draft, and wasn’t just his size, it’s cause he reminded me of myself more than any other prospect I’ve seen. I’m about 5’ 8” and have been nothing but a sniper my entire life in hockey - obviously not as great a shot as this kids - but it’s typically amongst the best on any team I played for. I do really well amongst my level of competition, I feast on weaker teams but against tougher teams I disappear more than any of my other teammates. If I play on a line where they’re not trying to get me the puck I disappear as I can’t win puck battles and can’t create offense. No way to say this without sounding like a dick but when I watch his goals I don’t sit there WOW’d cause I don’t see it translating to the NHL

I don’t see him crashing the net like a Gallagher or blazing speed like a Byron to beat d-men, I don’t see him beating a goalie from outside the circles like an Ovi or Laine.

I see him almost like a PP specialist sitting on the backdoor and my fear is Montreal has never been good at giving away top 6 spots or PP time to talented kids and he won’t make it as a bottom 6 player. As I said I’m really hoping I’m wrong and he’s the elite winger we’ve been wanting for decades so I’m ok with the home run swing but I have very tempered expectations

Caufield isn't going to go around dangling defencemen and ripping bombs like Ovi, but I do think his compete level and ability to get into dangerous areas will help him reach the next level. I understand space is harder to obtain in the NHL and his linemates will matter also, but his feet is always moving and while he doesn't crowd the net, he hadn't hesitated going to the net up to this point in his development.

Very true though that he may not make it at the NHL level, but in the games I've seen, I think his desire is there. Desire alone doesn't make it, but he has a lot of tools that coupled with his compete, I think he has a decent shot. What bodes well for him is by the time he is NHL-ready, KK and Poehling will hopefully be developed and entering their primes. We know how skilled Kotkkaniemi is and how great his vision is, so they could make a great pair. Poehling isn't as skilled as Kotkaniemi, but he gets his nose dirty and has a high compete as well which could sync well with Caufield. If Domi remains a center, despite both of them being small, I can see them causing headaches for opposition.

A lot of IFs though. That said, anyone who listened to me (like maybe 1 or 0 people, lol), I've been pumping Caufield's tires since February. I'm a little biased I guess, but I'm also hopeful.

 

[admiralcadillac]

I really hope I’m wrong on this one but I wasn’t excited about Caufield before the draft, and wasn’t just his size, it’s cause he reminded me of myself more than any other prospect I’ve seen. I’m about 5’ 8” and have been nothing but a sniper my entire life in hockey - obviously not as great a shot as this kids - but it’s typically amongst the best on any team I played for. I do really well amongst my level of competition, I feast on weaker teams but against tougher teams I disappear more than any of my other teammates. If I play on a line where they’re not trying to get me the puck I disappear as I can’t win puck battles and can’t create offense. No way to say this without sounding like a dick but when I watch his goals I don’t sit there WOW’d cause I don’t see it translating to the NHL

I don’t see him crashing the net like a Gallagher or blazing speed like a Byron to beat d-men, I don’t see him beating a goalie from outside the circles like an Ovi or Laine.

I see him almost like a PP specialist sitting on the backdoor and my fear is Montreal has never been good at giving away top 6 spots or PP time to talented kids and he won’t make it as a bottom 6 player. As I said I’m really hoping I’m wrong and he’s the elite winger we’ve been wanting for decades so I’m ok with the home run swing but I have very tempered expectations

I wouldn’t compare yourself to one of the most dominant goal scorers in USNDP history.

 

[Habs Icing]

Has nothing to do with perspective, they are nearly an equal distance from the camera and there shoulders may even be touching.

Sorry man, you need to read up on optics. That picture was taken with a telephoto that vastly amplifies any difference. Gallagher is definitely closer to the camera. You can tell by his right arm displacing Marchand's left side of the body. Gally is probably half a foot closer to the camera. Seeing as the photo was probably taken with a 200 mm lens, that half a foot difference makes a hell of a difference.

 

[azcanuck]

This kid has the hockey smarts to be elite. He knows where the puck is going to end up. That's Grezky like talent I put a premium on. Like I posted earlier the kid was number one on the team in ending up in the spots where the puck was assumed to be dropped in. I love that kind of stat more then anything.
Add in his elite heavy quick release shot and bingo!!! We got a first line elite player here that teams will be kicking themselves over not drafting.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Does anyone know if this kid has the hockey smarts to be elite? Does he know where the puck is going to end up? I mean, the sort of Gretzky like talent on which one would put a premium? Also, were there any stats showing his propensity to get into spaces into which the puck was assumed to be dropped in?

Thnx asking for a friend.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Does anyone know if this kid has the hockey smarts to be elite? Does he know where the puck is going to end up? I mean, the sort of Gretzky like talent on which one would put a premium? Also, were there any stats showing his propensity to get into spaces into which the puck was assumed to be dropped in?

Thnx asking for a friend.

He's no Andrei Kostitsyn

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

This kid has the hockey smarts to be elite. He knows where the puck is going to end up. That's Grezky like talent I put a premium on. Like I posted earlier the kid was number one on the team in ending up in the spots where the puck was assumed to be dropped in. I love that kind of stat more then anything.
Add in his elite heavy quick release shot and bingo!!! We got a first line elite player here that teams will be kicking themselves over not drafting.

I've said it before but when people often say about a KK or a Suzuki that 'he'll be really good but he won't be a saviour', I think this kid has the best chance out of anyone in our org that could fit the bill of 'saviour'. I think he's our crown jewel. People can think this is shiny new toy syndrome or whatever but I think he has the upside to do it. It's great that he can do other things too besides shoot and the compete level's there.

I still really can't gauge KK's true upside so maybe you have a Kane/Toews like situation (not asserting or denying they'll be as good as Toews and Kane) but I feel like Caufield's upside is more tangible than maybe KK's is at least imo.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I wouldn’t compare yourself to one of the most dominant goal scorers in USNDP history.

Sorry I forgot the LWOS disclaimer, my game is reminiscent of Cole Caufield, but this is a stylistic comparison only and not one based on skill or ability

In the meantime I’m praying that in 3 years my posts on Cole are ranked amongst the dumbest ever on HF and are thrown back in my face

 

[Sorinth]

I've said it before but when people often say about a KK or a Suzuki that 'he'll be really good but he won't be a saviour', I think this kid has the best chance out of anyone in our org that could fit the bill of 'saviour'. I think he's our crown jewel. People can think this is shiny new toy syndrome or whatever but I think he has the upside to do it. It's great that he can do other things too besides shoot and the compete level's there.

I still really can't gauge KK's true upside so maybe you have a Kane/Toews like situation (not asserting or denying they'll be as good as Toews and Kane) but I feel like Caufield's upside is more tangible than maybe KK's is at least imo.

If McDavid can't save a team then it's pretty safe bet that no single player can be a saviour.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

If McDavid can't save a team then it's pretty safe bet that no single player can be a saviour.

Depends on what he's surrounded with. Every team needs a high end producer. I think he's the guy that can be that.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Most exciting pick since Galchenyuk?

 

[Habs]

Most exciting pick since Galchenyuk?

Since Scherback for sure, our other 'steal of the first round'.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Since Scherback for sure, our other 'steal of the first round'.

Let me guess, you're cautiously pessimistic about this pick

 

[Mrb1p]

Let me guess, you're cautiously pessimistic about this pick

Are you surprised

 

[HOPE]

LOL at 14min20 Caufield gets stopped by a security guard and was asked if he had a pass!

 

[Frank Drebin]

Are you surprised

Cole Bustfield

 

[Mrb1p]

Cole Bustfield

Everybody sucks for Habs