Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread IX

[ViD]

Did anyone watch Texier’s game today? It was streaming for free.

Didn’t he go back to France for family reasons?

 

[Cowumbus]

Didn’t he go back to France for family reasons?

Yeah and he played today!

I watched 5-10 mins of it and saw him hit the bar on the PP but looking at the stat sheet he didn’t register a point, oh well.

 

[Cowumbus]

So it’s a long way away but CBJ prospects we expect to see on their WJC teams are: Hjorth (SWE) Chinakhov (RUS) Knazko (SVK).

Wonder if it ends up happening?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

So it’s a long way away but CBJ prospects we expect to see on their WJC teams are: Hjorth (SWE) Chinakhov (RUS) Knazko (SVK).

Wonder if it ends up happening?

Yeah, it’s happening. A bubble in Edmonton

 

[Nanabijou]

Yeah, it’s happening. A bubble in Edmonton

Yeah, I actually had tickets. Oh well, I chose to get a refund rather than pushing my tickets to the next year.

 

[Monstershockey]

Weird seeing Ex-Monster Alex Broadhurst in front of the net on Bemstroms goal.

 

[SavesEmNot]

Weird seeing Ex-Monster Alex Broadhurst in front of the net on Bemstroms goal.

Yeah, I watched the video, and I was like "did I just see Broadhurst?".

 

[ViD]

Avangard wins 4-0, Chinakhov without points tonight

 

[majormajor]

I made a quick effort at a prospect ranking, using the old HF ranking system.

Andrew Peeke, RD, Columbus/Cleveland -- 7.0B
Liam Foudy, LW, Columbus/Cleveland -- 7.0B
Dmitri Voronkov, C, Kazan -- 7.0B
Yegor Chinakhov, W, Omsk -- 7.5C
Kirill Marchenko, RW, St. Petersburg -- 8.0D

Daniil Tarasov, G, Ufa -- 8.0D
Trey Fix-Wolansky, RW, Cleveland -- 7.0C
Tim Berni, LD, Zurich -- 7.0C

Samuel Johannesson, RD, Rogle -- 7.0D
OJB Holm, LD, Mississaugu -- 6.5C
Eric Hjorth, RD, Sarnia -- 7.0D
Samuel Knazko, LD, TPS Jr. -- 7.0D
Jacob Christiansen, LD, Cleveland -- 7.0D
Veini Vehvilainen, G, Cleveland -- 6.5B

Mikael Pyyhtia, C/LW, TPS Jr. -- 7.0D
Kole Sherwood, RW, Cleveland -- 6.0C
Tyler Angle, LW, Windsor -- 6.0C
Matiss Kivlenieks, G, Cleveland -- 6.5C
Gabriel Carlsson, LD, Cleveland -- 6.0B

The ranking system is:

8.0 - topliner, top pair, good starting goalie
7.0 - second liner, second pair, low end 1B goalie
6.0 - third liner, third pair, pure backup
5.0 - fourth liner, spare D

A - will make this upside
B - will either make this upside or next tier down
C - could slide down two tiers
D - could slide down three tiers

 

[Doggy]

Never mind, someone posted this tweet in the draft thread. I assumed this should go in the prospects thread

 

[stevo61]

I made a quick effort at a prospect ranking, using the old HF ranking system.

Andrew Peeke, RD, Columbus/Cleveland -- 7.0B
Liam Foudy, LW, Columbus/Cleveland -- 7.0B
Dmitri Voronkov, C, Kazan -- 7.0B
Yegor Chinakhov, W, Omsk -- 7.5C
Kirill Marchenko, RW, St. Petersburg -- 8.0D

Daniil Tarasov, G, Ufa -- 8.0D
Trey Fix-Wolansky, RW, Cleveland -- 7.0C
Tim Berni, LD, Zurich -- 7.0C

Samuel Johannesson, RD, Rogle -- 7.0D
OJB Holm, LD, Mississaugu -- 6.5C
Eric Hjorth, RD, Sarnia -- 7.0D
Samuel Knazko, LD, TPS Jr. -- 7.0D
Jacob Christiansen, LD, Cleveland -- 7.0D
Veini Vehvilainen, G, Cleveland -- 6.5B

Mikael Pyyhtia, C/LW, TPS Jr. -- 7.0D
Kole Sherwood, RW, Cleveland -- 6.0C
Tyler Angle, LW, Windsor -- 6.0C
Matiss Kivlenieks, G, Cleveland -- 6.5C
Gabriel Carlsson, LD, Cleveland -- 6.0B

The ranking system is:

8.0 - topliner, top pair, good starting goalie
7.0 - second liner, second pair, low end 1B goalie
6.0 - third liner, third pair, pure backup
5.0 - fourth liner, spare D

A - will make this upside
B - will either make this upside or next tier down
C - could slide down two tiers
D - could slide down three tiers

Forgot about Christiansen, we have some boom or bust offensive guys on the back end and Berni being a little safer guy atleast. Wildcards up front of course include the Russians but Fix-Wolansky is a guy I maybe hold a little higher in my mind than others but you may in the same boat to some degree. He might be another Calvert type but hopefully his offense transitions to the big leagues a little better

 

[majormajor]

Forgot about Christiansen, we have some boom or bust offensive guys on the back end and Berni being a little safer guy atleast. Wildcards up front of course include the Russians but Fix-Wolansky is a guy I maybe hold a little higher in my mind than others but you may in the same boat to some degree. He might be another Calvert type but hopefully his offense transitions to the big leagues a little better

Yes, that's what I learned from this exercise - we have a lot of 7.0D type of defensemen. Guys that I don't expect to make it individually but there's enough of them. It's a reasonable guess that we'll get a middle pair guy and a bottom pair guy out of that group.

I love everything I know about Trey Fix-Wolansky, but there's a lot I don't know. Do you think he can be a Calvert type if he doesn't come through as a scorer? He's stocky and quick but I haven't seen enough to know whether he's a safe guy.

 

[stevo61]

Yes, that's what I learned from this exercise - we have a lot of 7.0D type of defensemen. Guys that I don't expect to make it individually but there's enough of them. It's a reasonable guess that we'll get a middle pair guy and a bottom pair guy out of that group.

I love everything I know about Trey Fix-Wolansky, but there's a lot I don't know. Do you think he can be a Calvert type if he doesn't come through as a scorer? He's stocky and quick but I haven't seen enough to know whether he's a safe guy.

I guess its hard to say safe to any 5'7" guy or whatever he officially is but yeah he is huge for his height. He's got one of those non stop motors from everything Ive ever seen so at worst I think he could be that never quit 4th line pest but as we saw in the AHL when he gets his chance he usually capitalizes. I dont know that he'll be a 2nd line guy but Im certainly pulling for him

EDIT: Most of what I saw about his AHL production is stat watching as I didnt really watch much of Cleveland this year. Most of my opinion comes from watching him in the WHL

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[ViD]

There’s nothing that says he doesn’t have an NHL clause. I personally think it’s 90% with NHL release clause

 

[stevo61]

There’s nothing that says he doesn’t have an NHL clause. I personally think it’s 90% with NHL release clause

honest question. Do many KHL contracts actually have a NHL out clause?

 

[Caser]

There’s nothing that says he doesn’t have an NHL clause. I personally think it’s 90% with NHL release clause

I don't think it will have an out clause, but also have to remember that KHL extensions are actually not extensions, but entirely new contracts, which means the cancellation of the remaining part of the current contract. Therefore this 3 year deal will effectively mean it will run through 2022/23, so not exactly "draft+5" like that tweet is saying..

 

[CharlotteJacket]

I'm not believing anything until a contract is signed or it isn't signed. But it begs the question: Did anyone from the CBJ talk to this kid to see what he had in mind about his future?

 

[ViD]

It would be extremely dumb on his part to get selected in the first round and then delay his NHL debut for a few years.

Hopefully Jarmo calls him or his agent to clarify this situation. It’s likely that Omsk was impressed with his play and threw a lot of money at him. For a 19 year old it’s rather exciting and he’s not thinking clearly

 

[punk_o_holic]

Are there any rules in the KHL where a player has to play a certain amount of years in the league before they can sign in the NHL and be able to return if things don't work out? In Japan for baseball, they have a similar rule regarding going to the MLB. I think if you choose MLB before you play in Japan, you have to sit out a year before you're reinstated. So if you suck and no MLB team wants you, have to wait a year as a punishment. I wonder if the KHL makes these threats (rules).

 

[ViD]

Are there any rules in the KHL where a player has to play a certain amount of years in the league before they can sign in the NHL and be able to return if things don't work out? In Japan for baseball, they have a similar rule regarding going to the MLB. I think if you choose MLB before you play in Japan, you have to sit out a year before you're reinstated. So if you suck and no MLB team wants you, have to wait a year as a punishment. I wonder if the KHL makes these threats (rules).

As far as I know, players can’t sign in the NHL if they have an active KHL contract unless there’s a release clause. There’s the same contract clauses in some NHL contracts to be sent back to Russia rather than AHL

 

[hardkorejackets]

I'm seriously doubting the extension would have an NHL out clause, if it even exists in the KHL. I'm betting Avansgard Omsk isn't wanting one in there, and why would they?

It's pretty smart thinking of Avansgard Omsk to try and convince him to sign a 3 year deal, right after being drafted in the 1st round. I'd try to get that deal done sooner rather than waiting as well.

I personally wouldn't mind if he spent the next one to two years in the KHL. The 3 year extension is a bit heartbreaking though.

 

[Cowumbus]

Bemstrom OT winner yesterday:

4 goals 2 assists in 5 games now.

 

[The Wheelchair]

Isn't this exactly the same report that has already been contradicted by Omsk itself?

 

[hardkorejackets]

This is from Yegor's agent...

Looks like we caught a little bit of a break and some of us (including myself) started freaking out a little too early.

I believe this is what we were all hoping for. Re-assess the situation come April 2021