Case for Pastrnak

[Dupell6]

Right. If the Bruins staff feels he's ready to compete in the NHL the way it did for Bergeron, who cares if his Swedish team makes it to the Elite league (I know, the name has changed)? If he can help the team now, it solves a lot of problems, not the least of which is the salary cap. Who are we to judge whether or not he's ready?

Idn if it really helps the cap that much, it would be cheaper to have our other prospects fill the remaining spots then have a first round elc cap hit I believe

 

[Beesfan]

huberdeau had 28 points in 69 games last year and it's not like there was anyone who should have been in front of him blocking his production. the islanders also stink and strome hasn't done anything. i think those 2 GMs might trade either of those guys for pastrnak right now if you took out the public relations factor of them looking like idiots trading their top 5 picks.

i don't know if pastrnak is ready for the nhl for the same reason i don't get why you think he is 2 years away. how could you know that at this point.

That's about the same level of production that Kessel had at the age of 20, and he had much more offensive support. Also equivalent the seasons that Datsyuk, the Sedins, Zach Parise had at that age. The vast majority of stars in the NHL didn't do anything great until the age of at least 21. Of course there are exceptions.

 

[billings21]

That's about the same level of production that Kessel had at the age of 20, and he had much more offensive support. Also equivalent the seasons that Datsyuk, the Sedins, Zach Parise had at that age. The vast majority of stars in the NHL didn't do anything great until the age of at least 21. Of course there are exceptions.

kessel had 60 points when he was 20. i don't even care about points. i don't see how the rate other players developed has anything to do with any future players. it's a stupid lazy way to evaluate it. if pastrnak is ready to be a useful player right now it makes no sense to send him away because he's not old enough for you.

 

[Mione134]

Spooner: 5'11 181
Pastrnak: 6'0 168

It's actually pretty decent of a difference. Send him to Sweden and let's see him next year

Pastrnak is around 170-173 atm. He can easily gain 5-10 pounds before Sept IIRC.

 

[Jeff from Maine]

kessel had 60 points when he was 20. i don't even care about points. i don't see how the rate other players developed has anything to do with any future players. it's a stupid lazy way to evaluate it. if pastrnak is ready to be a useful player right now it makes no sense to send him away because he's not old enough for you.

How about you do something rather novel, Billings...

Rather an just crapping on everything that people post, why don't you spell out EXACTLY why Huberdeau and Strome are bad picks.

Don't just take the jerk way out and rip somebodies comments. Give some actual INSIGHT and back up your ranting.

Until then, your just a know-it-all blowhard, whose only purpose for posting is to irritate everyone.

Later

 

[DKH]

huberdeau and strome look like bad picks. why not say pastarnak needs 7 because that's how long hugh jessiman needed.

I am holding off putting you on ignore till Friday to see if you can post something dumber than this

 

[billings21]

I am holding off putting you on ignore till Friday to see if you can post something dumber than this

please not that

 

[DKH]

please not that

I don't think I'm going to have to worry you silly goose ;-)

 

[Colt.45Orr]

New posters should have to get voted in after a 4-5 month trial period. HFboards continues to get bigger all the time, a strategy needs to be put in place.

 

[DKH]

New posters should have to get voted in after a 4-5 month trial period. HFboards continues to get bigger all the time, a strategy needs to be put in place.

Or previously banned posters who get back on

 

[Alicat]

I am holding off putting you on ignore till Friday to see if you can post something dumber than this

You just made my day with this post.

 

[VanIsle]

I just don't think Pastrnak has NHL size yet, but if he continues to impress, why not give the kid a 9 game tryout.

Here is a list of top season performances by 18 year olds.

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/player-age/18-year-old-nhl-players.html

 

[Mione134]

New posters should have to get voted in after a 4-5 month trial period. HFboards continues to get bigger all the time, a strategy needs to be put in place.

HFboards Hunger Games.

 

[Beesfan]

I just don't think Pastrnak has NHL size yet, but if he continues to impress, why not give the kid a 9 game tryout.

Here is a list of top season performances by 18 year olds.

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/player-age/18-year-old-nhl-players.html

That list should temper expectations quite a bit. In the entire modern history of the NHL, there appears to be about 20-30 players that contributed significantly to their team as an 18 year old rookie. Pasternak was just picked 25th in his draft and stood out at a rookie camp.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

does the 9 game limit apply to all rookies? I always thought it was just for the purposes of sending them back to their Junior team. If Pastrnak has been playing in a pro league couldn't they conceivably keep him as long as they want or would returning to his team in Sweden be considered the equivalent of returning to juniors?

 

[VanIsle]

I am pretty sure that a junior player can't play unless they are signed to an NHL contract, if they are they can play up to 9 games, if they play 10 the contract begins.

 

[bbfan419]

Just wondering where most people feel Pastrnak is on the Bruins prospect list? Is he already at # 1 or behind guys like Spooner, Koko and Subban etc.?

I am all for dealing guys like Kelly, Campbell and McQuaid and giving younger guys the opportunity to step up and solve some cap problems at the same time, but I think Pastrnak is best served going back to Sweden for this year. Would love to see Spooner, Fraser and Florek make it this year.

 

[Altamira]

I just don't think Pastrnak has NHL size yet, but if he continues to impress, why not give the kid a 9 game tryout.

Here is a list of top season performances by 18 year olds.

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/player-age/18-year-old-nhl-players.html

Gretzky. Just. Wow.

 

[DitClapper]

does the 9 game limit apply to all rookies? I always thought it was just for the purposes of sending them back to their Junior team. If Pastrnak has been playing in a pro league couldn't they conceivably keep him as long as they want or would returning to his team in Sweden be considered the equivalent of returning to juniors?

I think it would be something like the Teuvo Terravainen situation.

 

[TCDaniels]

I am holding off putting you on ignore till Friday to see if you can post something dumber than this

Unfortunately (or - I don't know - Fortunately, I suppose.. if you're TRULY interested in seeing how far the absurdity can go)

But - to me - unfortunately, as I'm finding out a lot these days, you simply can't escape the crap altogether... Things just appear when people respond to folks.

Sigh.

 

[billings21]

That list should temper expectations quite a bit. In the entire modern history of the NHL, there appears to be about 20-30 players that contributed significantly to their team as an 18 year old rookie. Pasternak was just picked 25th in his draft and stood out at a rookie camp.

there were 7 players who contributed significantly to the bruins last year according to your metric

 

[SoldiersOfFilth]

there were 7 players who contributed significantly to the bruins last year according to your metric

we had seven 18 year old rookies on our team last year? Damn, where did we find room for them with all of the vets and players over 18 we had on our team?

 

[Alan Ryan]

I am holding off putting you on ignore till Friday to see if you can post something dumber than this

I couldn't wait until Friday. Done.

 

[Alan Ryan]

Unfortunately (or - I don't know - Fortunately, I suppose.. if you're TRULY interested in seeing how far the absurdity can go)

But - to me - unfortunately, as I'm finding out a lot these days, you simply can't escape the crap altogether... Things just appear when people respond to folks.

Sigh.

And that's the problem. Having the Ignore function is great but people still respond to bad posters.

Why do they waste their time responding? One of life's mysteries.

 

[GordonHowe]

I am pretty sure that a junior player can't play unless they are signed to an NHL contract, if they are they can play up to 9 games, if they play 10 the contract begins.

That's my foggy understanding as well. All of you IT guys with your physics degrees...

I can spell cap, I know what $69 ceiling means, but beyond this lies an ice cream headache.

God bless you, you Rainmen, you,