Dreger: Carolina looking for Top 4 Dman - 1st Rounder in play

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  1. mydnyte

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    Barrie for the Leafs 1st back and one of the plethora of Dman prospects they have
     
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    Klingberg for that 1st +

    Klingberg is on a sweetheart contract 2 more years at a $4.25 MIl cap hit. Dallas needs depth scoring.
     
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    Canes and leafs are one point apart in the standings. If you’re willing to give up Barrie at this point in the season how on earth do you think you’re going to get so much in return for him?
     
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    so much?? ...thats a HUGE underpayment for Barrie
     
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    Completely ignoring every other factor, nice.

    Not looking to move a possible lottery pick for 25 games of Barrie. Leafs need to add D not send them out, such a dumb move.
     
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    Am I the only one here underwhelmed with Dumba? I don't see him making many teams better.
     
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    What does McKeown possibly do for the Rangers? We already have Lundkvist knocking on the door and Keane in Hartford. Rangers don't need defensive prospects on either side.
    You don't think one of their forward prospects like Gauthier, Bokk, Kuokannen would be targeted in a trade for Skjei?
     
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    It depends on when you've watched him. The first half of this year he was pretty underwhelming. The last 10 games or so he's been good, and the last 5 or so he's been great. His shot still seems a little off, but it's getting there.
     
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    Argument can be made Skjei at market ish price is better/best option atm.
    If a D can't skate well at NHL level, effectiveness is limited, the poorer he skates, the more so that is the case.
    Brady has nice size and skates very well including backwards. Sure all pro NHL skaters do this but to do so fluidly with speed is a cut above. His problems are:
    - don't want to have to constantly change linemates or dif systems
    - slightly overpaid, but has nice term into prime of his career, and this perception diminishes over the deal.

    Given that what is he really worth?
    The min is a 2020 1st, there should be something more. But what more there is, I don't want to be like Slats was with Talbot and wait til the last second b'c he was trying to squeeze every nickel out of the transaction. We can live with keeping Skjei for the time being, but we are better off with repurposing his cap, so I am happy to take min/+ of fair value without trying to score a heist.

    Would love to add Gauthier to 1st, even if NY adds small.
    But while I expect Canes to be reasonable and recognize it is also in their interest to get a good deal done sooner than later and not waste any time, I don't expect them to be overly/unduly generous.

    Since their voices here are nixing Strome or Deangelo as well, we should just focus on Skjei.

    A reasonable counter might be
    Skjei + NYR + DAL 2020 3rds
    for
    2020 1st + return of Rangers 2020 2nd

    But either way, McKeown is not a bad secondary piece to get.

    Trouba if I am not mistaken said he'd only come to Rangers, MAYBE also hometown DET otherwise forget it.
    I could see after this season some kind of deal sending JT home, creating an opening.

    Sure we are waiting on Lind. and a coupla others to be competing here possibly as early as next yr, but having McKeown --- who supposedly has been ready already for a while now --- here and getting NHL games under his belt in advance of that competition, would be a good thing.

    I vote for any incarnation with Skjei for a 1st as core pieces.
    But I want a deal done yesterday.

    We have held on to too many vets for too long, and that cap availability would make a Kreider extension [which we can still do anyway] less of a headache.
     
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    The main piece coming back should be 2020 1st.
    We should try to add for such an F prospect as a secondary piece.
     
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    If the leafs are willing to sell him for futures while in the hunt for a playoff spot what does that say about him?

    Yet many leafs fans think he’s going to return a first and a prospect.
     
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    A rental Barrie is worth a mid-late 2nd. Nobody is paying a 1st for him. Especially not the Canes - can you imagine a Gardiner-Barrie 2nd pair? Yikes.

    I'd take Vatanen over Barrie 8 days a week and NJ is reportedly not getting a 1st for him either.
     
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    you can have Brady Skjei
     
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    Alec Martinez @50% retention for Julien Gauthier + 2nd/3rd
     
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    If Anaheim is really trying to sell. And I can see it after last nights game against the Flames. Fricken horrible.

    What D man would the Canes want from the Ducks? Manson?
     
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    I want Necas from Carolina. What does that cost Anaheim?
     
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    Carolina needs a long-term Top 6 center as much as any other team. Lindholm is too good and thus, too expensive for what they’re trying to accomplish here (a 2nd pairing defenseman to go with Slavin, Pesce and Hamilton). Gibson would have to be on the table.
     
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    :eyeroll: I wouldn’t have asked if I didn’t want to know.
     
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    Gibson, with a few adds from us to even it out.
     
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    Not for sale
     
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    I'd move him in a heartbeat for Gibson. Much bigger hole in our organization.
     
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    I assumed he was talking about defenseman coming back, as that’s what this thread is about so I didn’t consider forwards or goalies.

    anyone is for sale for a price.

    Is Gibson someone Anaheim would move without a big overpayment?
     

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