Player Discussion Carey Price: Longest Tenured Hab

[Frank Drebin]

The team is very identical to last year..
Outside of their 4-0-1 stretch, and most players starting the year hot, team has been quite mediocre.
They've been a .500 team for more than 75% of the season and while we can rightfully claim Price has cost the team some points, the team also had no business getting some on certain nights too.
Overall, this team sucks.

"If you remove the games that make this team an above .500 team, they're just a .500 team."

C'mon now, imagine if someone was using that argument the other way to argue that Montreal was a good team, you'd be having none of it.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The team is very identical to last year..
Outside of their 4-0-1 stretch, and most players starting the year hot, team has been quite mediocre.
They've been a .500 team for more than 75% of the season and while we can rightfully claim Price has cost the team some points, the team also had no business getting some on certain nights too.
Overall, this team sucks.

I agree. The difference between this year and last year is that things broke our way to begin the season. We have a (slim) margin for error.

 

[BLONG7]

He makes his defense look worst than what it is.

He’s goaling like some one who doesnt belong in the NHL

Wow...just wow. So, you don't watch the games at all, OK.

 

[NotProkofievian]

"If you remove the games that make this team an above .500 team, they're just a .500 team."

C'mon now, imagine if someone was using that argument the other way to argue that Montreal was a good team, you'd be having none of it.

I think he's noting the trend, more than cherry picking. We started hot. For the last long while, though, this team has barely kept its nose above water.

 

[Habsfan2992]

The NJ game was faaaar from his fault. Horrible defensive coverage

 

[Kriss E]

"If you remove the games that make this team an above .500 team, they're just a .500 team."

C'mon now, imagine if someone was using that argument the other way to argue that Montreal was a good team, you'd be having none of it.

Of course I would be having none of it, because you don't remove the part that represents 80% of their year. I focus on the bulk.
Outside of this 4-0-1, the Habs have been a .500 team. I don't know why you can't mention this. Are we not allowed to point out stretches?

 

[ECWHSWI]

"If you remove the games that make this team an above .500 team, they're just a .500 team."

C'mon now, imagine if someone was using that argument the other way to argue that Montreal was a good team, you'd be having none of it.

Habs won 2 in a row once in the last 30 days...

 

[Frank Drebin]

Of course I would be having none of it, because you don't remove the part that represents 80% of their year. I focus on the bulk.
Outside of this 4-0-1, the Habs have been a .500 team. I don't know why you can't mention this. Are we not allowed to point out stretches?

It's a very small size which is really affected by a game or 2 at this point. You said yourself that price cost this team 2 or 3 points, that changes the 7-7-4 record to 8-6-4 or 8-5-5, or 8-5-4/8-4-5 before last nights loss.

 

[Kriss E]

It's a very small size which is really affected by a game or 2 at this point. You said yourself that price cost this team 2 or 3 points, that changes the 7-7-4 record to 8-6-4 or 8-5-5, or 8-5-4/8-4-5 before last nights loss.

I also said this team had no business getting some points in games too. Cancels each other out.

What was even smaller in size was our record in mid October, yet that didn't stop everyone from discussing how the Habs were much better, that they're well on their way of becoming contenders and that Bergey deserves GM of the year nomination.

I've been arguing how people are falling for this mirage.
Little by little Habs are dropping towards where they're expected to be. It's only a matter of time.

 

[nhlfan9191]

He makes his defense look worst than what it is.

He’s goaling like some one who doesnt belong in the NHL

Weber- 1 (hurt for a full calendar year now)
Petry-3
Benn- 6-7/AHL
Schlemko- 6-7/AHL
Reilly- 6-7/AHL
Oulette- 7/AHL
Mete- AHL
Alzner- AHL

Im well aware you don’t like Price. Well established. But how the **** can you look at those names up above and say with a straight face that the goaltender is the one making them look bad?

 

[Perrah]

Weber- 1 (hurt for a full calendar year now)
Petry-3
Benn- 6-7/AHL
Schlemko- 6-7/AHL
Reilly- 6-7/AHL
Oulette- 7/AHL
Mete- AHL
Alzner- AHL

Im well aware you don’t like Price. Well established. But how the **** can you look at those names up above and say with a straight face that the goaltender is the one making them look bad?

The problem is you are taking what he says as if it has any merit.

 

[bsl]

He's back

Yup.

 

[Genesis76]

Wow...just wow. So, you don't watch the games at all, OK.

I do ....come on man

 

[Milhouse40]

I do ....come on man

Watching Price and watching the game are two very different things.
One thing for sure by your comment, you have no clue how to watch or evaluate defensive play.

 

[nhlfan9191]

The problem is you are taking what he says as if it has any merit.

I never claimed what he says has any merit. He is however allowed to have an opinion and this site is setup for debate. I’ve never once seen him give a breakdown on areas of our game outside of Price unless it includes propping Subban, Halak or Eller or trashing on Price and Weber. I’m generally curious to hear his opinion on the group of defenceman I just listed and what things they’re doing to warrant his support. He gets mad when I call him biased but he never gives a reason as to why he’s not.

 

[BLONG7]

I do ....come on man

Sorry man, but with the comments you have been making, I don't know what to think.

Guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Price continues to find his game, but the D that Bergevin has put on this team, for the past two seasons, is abysmal. Bernie Parent and Ken Dryden couldn't save us...

 

[The Great Weal]

He makes his defense look worst than what it is.

He’s goaling like some one who doesnt belong in the NHL

Ok it all makes sense now. You've been watching the games with your eyes closed.

 

[Genesis76]

Sorry man, but with the comments you have been making, I don't know what to think.

Guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Price continues to find his game, but the D that Bergevin has put on this team, for the past two seasons, is abysmal. Bernie Parent and Ken Dryden couldn't save us...

Prob you dint catch all my comments but I always said The D is bad...

Bad as in 3 goals per night? maybe.
5 goals per night? i dont think so.

 

[Perrah]

I never claimed what he says has any merit. He is however allowed to have an opinion and this site is setup for debate. I’ve never once seen him give a breakdown on areas of our game outside of Price unless it includes propping Subban, Halak or Eller or trashing on Price and Weber. I’m generally curious to hear his opinion on the group of defenceman I just listed and what things they’re doing to warrant his support. He gets mad when I call him biased but he never gives a reason as to why he’s not.

Because he is biased, I mean I like Subban but his posts make me shake my head. Then you take that fanaticism and turn it into hate for Price and you get what is going on now. You have nothing left to get from Genesis76, your post above sums it up pretty well. It's a shtick at this point.

 

[Genesis76]

Because he is biased, I mean I like Subban but his posts make me shake my head. Then you take that fanaticism and turn it into hate for Price and you get what is going on now. You have nothing left to get from Genesis76, your post above sums it up pretty well. It's a shtick at this point.

Im not sure whats more biased though, some one who denys any wrong doing of a goalie that gets lit up 5 times a night or some one who's objectively pointing out his flaws with some content.

I'll wait for your answer.

 

[Perrah]

Im not sure whats more biased though, some one who denys any wrong doing of a goalie that gets lit up 5 times a night or some one who's objectively pointing out his flaws with some content.

I'll wait for your answer.

You are anything but objective.

 

[Genesis76]

You are anything but objective.

That's very objective.

 

[Perrah]

That's very objective.

You arent even sure if the defense is 3 goal per game bad, how in the world can anyone take you seriously?

 

[peate]

I think Price's problem is he's trying to do too much. He knows his defence sucks and the team's success rests on his shoulders, and it's too much for him. He manages to make game saving stops every game, but also lets in at least one bad goal a game. Things aren't going to get better until we allow less scoring chances and play like we did at the start of the season.

 

[Perrah]

Here is your post from the PGT:

4 goals on price

1 goal was obviously D


Some will tell you the opposite though, don't trust them.

Watch this video and please detail how 4 of those goals are on Price.