Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign Andrei Kuzmenko

[VanJack]

It's taken him 10-15 games or so to figure it out, but this guy is becoming a holy terror along the wall. Almost impossible to dislodge from the puck, and his shot is bordering on lethal.

The thing is he's a ppg player I still don't think we've seen his best hockey. The only concern is that he might be rapidly playing his way out of Vancouver. I don't see where they're going to find the cap space to re-sign him.

 

[arttk]

Im on the trade camp.
Because we would get a kings ransom for what he'll fetch for us.
1 mil cap hit for 1st line production.
Best deal in the league and by a LARGE margin

Rental value are usually capped. Like at most 1st + B prospect or 2nd?
Most contenders probably don’t have cap to reup him.

 

[LordBacon]

Rental value are usually capped. Like at most 1st + B prospect or 2nd?
Most contenders probably don’t have cap to reup him.

What youre implying is right but
typically speaking rentals dont offer 1st line production with 1 mil cap hit.
I'd expect teams lining up to offer us something substantial.
Cup contenders are usually pretty tight cap wise, hence why the cap hit will add even more value to the trade than usual.

 

[arttk]

What youre implying is right but
typically speaking rentals dont offer 1st line production with 1 mil cap hit.
I'd expect teams lining up to offer us something substantial.
Cup contenders are usually pretty tight cap wise, hence why the cap hit will add even more value to the trade than usual.

Sure but contenders also have limited amount of assets too. I guess the only contenders with a ton of assets are the Rangers and Canes. Maybe they would give up more but they tend to be stingy.

 

[Vector]

Sure but contenders also have limited amount of assets too. I guess the only contenders with a ton of assets are the Rangers and Canes. Maybe they would give up more but they tend to be stingy.

While not contenders, the Devils, Red Wings, and Kings are massively asset rich and all have the potential to outbid everyone else if there's a move they want to make.

 

[mathonwy]

We should trade Kuz for a bunch of draft picks.

 

[Grub]

I would get rid of Boeser and Garland to keep him.

 

[Knight53]

6 years for 5.5-6 mill

 

[LordBacon]

6 years for 5.5-6 mill

No way he signs for this cheap

 

[Vector]

No way he signs for this cheap

A few days ago I figured they could get him long term at around 5.5m. He’s had 3g 2a since that time and in two games already priced himself out of that.

I do think management is committed to this player and will do whatever they can to sign him. It was one of the deciding factors when he was choosing a team.

 

[LordBacon]

A few days ago I figured they could get him long term at around 5.5m. He’s had 3g 2a since that time and in two games already priced himself out of that.

I do think management is committed to this player and will do whatever they can to sign him. It was one of the deciding factors when he was choosing a team.

I know about the verbal agreement(dont know if its true or not tho), but It's still imho that we're better off with him traded for more assets like high picks/good d prospects. Because that area is wanting.
Either way Im curious to see how this develops.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

It’s kinda hilarious the situation we’re in… Kuzmenko and Horvat are pending UFAs having a great season yet we’re set to lose both of them because we have so much dead cap space that’s being wasted on players like Myers, OEL and Boeser. Even if we offloaded Myers and Boeser re-signing both Kuzmenko and Horvat will leave us with no room to fix the D. It’s messed up how badly Benning f***ed things up and it’s equally messed up how Rutherfords group just continued to add to Bennings mess and making it even worse.

Add Miller to that list.

Rental value are usually capped. Like at most 1st + B prospect or 2nd?
Most contenders probably don’t have cap to reup him.

That sounds great to me.

 

[Breakers]

Yay Kuz

 

[RutherPlan]

Canucks will sign him and its pretty clear who the core is on this team. Canucks established top six is now Horvat, Miller, Boeser, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, and MIkheyev.

You can shed Garland/Myers/Pearson and its more than enough room to accommodate Horvat and Kuzmenko. Canucks will shed 2.4 million in dead cap this off-season, and Poolman will be LTIR for the rest of his contract.

You can shed the fat in other areas but you don't mess with the core players that is even more offensively deep than Toronto.

 

[iceburg]

Whatever happens it should be restated that signing Kuzmenko was a major coup for this management group. They are either going to keep an NHL ready top 6 winger, possibly top tier, for free or they're going to get significant assets that they wouldn't otherwise have acquired.

This falls into the "a little luck along the way" category that you need to build a contender.

 

[Vector]

 

[timw33]

Essentially we have to trade at deadline if they do not feel 100% confident he will re-up here. Absolutely no point in continuing this awful cycle of players leaving for absolutely nothing.

 

[beachcomber]

He won't be back.

 

[Cancuks]

Trade him and if he really wants to play in Vancouver I'm sure he'll sign again after the season.

 

[Knight53]

23 points in 25 games now. 12 goals. He’s automatic in front of the net.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

23 points in 25 games now. 12 goals. He’s automatic in front of the net.

Also the setup on the Garland goal was fantastic, put it just right while being tightly checked.

 

[Play]

He won't be back.

Also the setup on the Garland goal was fantastic, put it just right while being tightly checked.

We need to pay picks get rid of shit contracts so we can pay Kuzmenko and Pettersson.

Emergency situation require painful moves.

Or you guys not ready to give him the nod yet

 

[Jay26]

You keep him and sell other players for picks instead. He's a guy who not only produces but it's how he plays as well. Like others have said, he's fantastic along the boards and in tight. He's not a perimeter skill guy and his favourite spot on the PP is in front of the net. That's projectable, dependable and conducive to winning.

Not saying guys like Miller and Horvat aren't good but I think those are the guys you try to sell. Boeser too. Build the offense around Pettersson and Kuzmenko.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

We need to pay picks get rid of shit contracts so we can pay Kuzmenko and Pettersson.

Emergency situation require painful moves.

Or you guys not ready to give him the nod yet

Not in position to give him the extension he will command.

 

[Vector]