C Quinton Byfield - Sudbury Wolves, OHL (2020 Draft)

[Sleemans2]

With the exception of Connor McDavid, Byfield is easily the best prospect the Ohl has produced since Hall ad Stamkos. My feeling watching him last year is he reminded me of Lindros with the combination and strength as a 16 year old. Whether he goes one or not I don't know as I have to seen Lafreniere except on TV. I will say though he will not be in the Ohl next year. Not a lock for the wjc as Canada does not always like to take under agers to the tournament.

 

[WaW]

scoring at a 2.66 PPG clip is impossible to maintain unless you have the talent of a Connor McDavid type of prospect. We all know he isn't that. anywhere at 1.75+ for the year and he's my #1OA pick.

I'm sort of hoping he isn't the #1OA that way freeing him up from the stupid unwritten rule that all #1OA picks get an automatic pass to a NHL roster. nothing wrong with him spending 1 more year in junior.

There have been a few #1OA picks the past 10 years who could have used another year or 2 of development time.

#2 OA picks also get that free pass though. Last non-goalie #2 not to make the NHL roster in his first year was David Legwand in 1998.

 

[sufferer]

#2 OA picks also get that free pass though. Last non-goalie #2 not to make the NHL roster in his first year was David Legwand in 1998.

Sam Reinhart, unless you count the 9 game look on the fourth line.

 

[yalbmert25]

With the exception of Connor McDavid, Byfield is easily the best prospect the Ohl has produced since Hall ad Stamkos. My feeling watching him last year is he reminded me of Lindros with the combination and strength as a 16 year old. Whether he goes one or not I don't know as I have to seen Lafreniere except on TV. I will say though he will not be in the Ohl next year. Not a lock for the wjc as Canada does not always like to take under agers to the tournament.

Lafrenierre was on the WJC roster last year! If Byfield is better then him doesn’t he need to be on that roster?

 

[Sleemans2]

I do not disagree however historically Canada does not takeunder agers. If they do they end up as thirteenth forwards, Lafreniere, Mackinnon Stamkos started that way, Crosby, however he was 16, are examples coming to mind of those going.. Stalls, hall Nugent Hopkins, come to mind as non invites and or cuts and were high Draft picks the following year

 

[Uncle]

Regardless of draft position, a guy with his physical tools would preferably be up in the NHL the next year... he doesnt need to go back to the OHL to grow and become stronger to play with men at the NHL level, he has all that.

 

[Daniel Gee]

This is his game from his 4 point night on October 4th.

 

[Daneurism]

This is his game from his 4 point night on October 4th.

This is absolutely wild.

Any doubters should check out this reel...from ONE game. Christ...

 

[Pulju Propagandist]

Fast, strong, very helpful in that he backchecks and makes smart plays in his own end. Man, what a player so far. Glad a place like Sudbury gets to watch this player.

 

[ijuka]

Unfortunately, the weakness of CHL will rear its ugly head with Byfield as well as post-draft, in the case he's not instantly NHL-ready, he'll need to return to juniors for a completely pointless season instead of being able to develop in AHL in a significantly more productive manner.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Unfortunately, the weakness of CHL will rear its ugly head with Byfield as well as post-draft, in the case he's not instantly NHL-ready, he'll need to return to juniors for a completely pointless season instead of being able to develop in AHL in a significantly more productive manner.

Yeah the CHL is awful never develops good players really.

 

[snipes]

Unfortunately, the weakness of CHL will rear its ugly head with Byfield as well as post-draft, in the case he's not instantly NHL-ready, he'll need to return to juniors for a completely pointless season instead of being able to develop in AHL in a significantly more productive manner.

The CHL is the best development league in the world, by a substantial margin.

 

[ijuka]

Yeah the CHL is awful never develops good players really.

Good job missing the point. Unless you think next season Byfield would benefit more from CHL than AHL?

The CHL is the best development league in the world, by a substantial margin.

Okay? Not that I said anything different.

 

[WildWillie]

Unfortunately, the weakness of CHL will rear its ugly head with Byfield as well as post-draft, in the case he's not instantly NHL-ready, he'll need to return to juniors for a completely pointless season instead of being able to develop in AHL in a significantly more productive manner.

Yeah it really held former CHL superstars back eh..... Crosby, Mackinnon, Tavares, Kane, Stamkos, McDavid, Hall.

 

[Breakers]

The CHL is the best development league in the world, by a substantial margin.

substantial?
um no

 

[snipes]

substantial?
um no

Are you suggesting that cumulatively the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL don’t produce the most NHL players by a “substantial” margin?

The CHL is the best development league for NHL talent in the world. Period.

 

[Breakers]

Are you suggesting that cumulatively the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL don’t produce the most NHL players by a “substantial” margin?

The CHL is the best development league for NHL talent in the world. Period.

You said it is the best development league in the world by a substantial margin.
But numbers say otherwise with it dropping, so no it isnt "substantially" better

 

[snipes]

You said it is the best development league in the world by a substantial margin.
But numbers say otherwise with it dropping, so no it isnt "substantially" better

Man, you’re really digging your heels in eh? Go see who the greatest players in the history of our game and current best players are from. See where they developed.

I’m assuming you’re an NCAA guy being in Colorado.

Having an NHL - CHL agreement that requires their best players to stay back and play in their 19 year old season if they aren’t NHL ready prepares them. But it also prepares the 16 and 17 year old phenoms that play against those top older players.

Your dismissiveness of the CHL could use some research on your part. The WHL, OHL, and QMJHL produce the best players now, and historically.

 

[ijuka]

Yeah it really held former CHL superstars back eh..... Crosby, Mackinnon, Tavares, Kane, Stamkos, McDavid, Hall.

All of those played in NHL immediately after draft so your comment has nothing to do with what I said.

Are you suggesting that cumulatively the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL don’t produce the most NHL players by a “substantial” margin?

What that's mostly about in my opinion is simply that that's where the Canadian players play. If Canadians played somewhere else, that'd be "the strongest development league", regardless of the quality of the actual design of the league.

I'm not sure if people have reading comprehension issues or something? I didn't call CHL a weak development league, just said that its weakness of being unable to play in AHL post-draft is an issue. It's pretty frustrating having people argue against points that weren't made.

 

[tealhockey]

Man, you’re really digging your heels in eh? Go see who the greatest players in the history of our game and current best players. See where they developed.

I’m assuming you’re an NCAA guy being in Colorado.

Having an NHL - CHL agreement that requires their best players to stay back and play in their 19 year old season if they aren’t NHL ready prepares them. But it also prepares the 16 and 17 year old phenoms that play against those top older players.

Your dismissiveness of the CHL could use some research on your part.

Certainly the CHL, which is effectively three different leagues in a hockey-crazed country, is an excellent developmental league, and the NHL-CHL agreement has benefitted it greatly. We can debate till the cows come home whether it is good that a player is hand-cuffed back to the CHL when he may or may not be ready for lower levels of pro hockey. In the NCAA, which is something akin to a U24 league and much more top-heavy, the league would also benefit greatly if teams were mandated to send a player back to college if they were not going straight to play in the show. Whether that is in the upper-echelon would-be AHL player's best interest, again we could argue all day, but it would certainly help the league the way it has helped the CHL greatly, by allowing the lower-tier prospects to ply their trade against pro-ready players.

In the NCAA's case they actually get hurt because teams are afraid a player will use the clause which allows them to sign with another team. Circumstances like that effect a player's developmental track a lot more than people recognize

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

Are you suggesting that cumulatively the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL don’t produce the most NHL players by a “substantial” margin?

The CHL is the best development league for NHL talent in the world. Period.

Well it is the development league for the country that produces the most NHL talent. Whether it's actually "better" at development than leagues that don't have access to the same pool of talent, it's impossible to say.

Either way, I'm pretty sure that was meant was simply that the level of play in the CHL is weak for a player the caliber of Byfield, compared to prospects playing in pro leagues like Holtz, Raymond and Lundell. I personally don't agree that it'll hold players like Byfield and Lafrenière back, though.

 

[Breakers]

Man, you’re really digging your heels in eh? Go see who the greatest players in the history of our game and current best players. See where they developed.

I’m assuming you’re an NCAA guy being in Colorado.

Having an NHL - CHL agreement that requires their best players to stay back and play in their 19 year old season if they aren’t NHL ready prepares them. But it also prepares the 16 and 17 year old phenoms that play against those top older players.

Your dismissiveness of the CHL could use some research on your part. The WHL, OHL, and QMJHL produce the best players now, and historically.

Im not dismissive, it is a good developmental league, but not substanitally over everyone else like you claim.
also you should do some research

Last years draft was the worst for the CHL in the last 10 years, and it was the 5th consecutive year for it dropping with players taken.
Boston winnipeg and Deroit didnt draft a single player from the CHL on 2019. Not a single ONE.
2nd worst year for the WHL in the past 10, worst year for the OHL in the past 10.

 

[kyle44]

Im not dismissive, it is a good developmental league, but not substanitally over everyone else like you claim.
also you should do some research

Last years draft was the worst for the CHL in the last 10 years, and it was the 5th consecutive year for it dropping with players taken.
Boston winnipeg and Deroit didnt draft a single player from the CHL on 2019. Not a single ONE.
2nd worst year for the WHL in the past 10, worst year for the OHL in the past 10.

What a ludicrous attempt at trying to reinforce your argument. There were 28 other teams that did, so what if there weren't any CHLers taken among the 21 players collectively drafted by these three teams?

 

[nbwingsfan]

#2 OA picks also get that free pass though. Last non-goalie #2 not to make the NHL roster in his first year was David Legwand in 1998.

Spezza in 2001?
Bobby Ryan in 2005?
JVR in 2007?
Ryan Murray in 2012?

 

[ijuka]

What a ludicrous attempt at trying to reinforce your argument. There were 28 other teams that did, so what if there weren't any CHLers taken among the 21 players collectively drafted by these three teams?

Getting drafted also means nothing, what's important is whether the player develops and becomes an NHL player.