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Buyout Girardi?

Thirty One

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NYR84 said:
I like the Bolland idea. Florida's defense sucks after Campbell and Ekblad, and Campbell might be gone for them after July 1st. Though I guess Girardi doesn't help much in that area, but they don't need to know that. :naughty:
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What better candidate to see value in Girardi than the team that paid $27.5M for Dave Bolland?
 
NYR Viper

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If I am the Rangers, I hold on to Girardi. Now hear me out:

Trade Staal and Klein. Re-sign Yandle.

Hold on to Girardi for 1 more year in a diminished role (must go out and find a top-4 RD). See how he fares next year with a longer off-season and hopefully no off-season surgery. If he plays well, trade him. If he doesn't buy him out next year. That cuts down on 2 years of buy-out dead cap space and it gives the Rangers a bottom-4 minute eater who can PK.

Staal and Klein should be gone and they have value. If they buy-out Girardi and make those trades, that leaves McDonagh and MAYBE Yandle as NHL d-men? Would be nice to throw Girardi on the bottom-pairing for another season for experience and depth.
 
Thirty One

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NYR Viper said:
If I am the Rangers, I hold on to Girardi. Now hear me out:

Trade Staal and Klein. Re-sign Yandle.

Hold on to Girardi for 1 more year in a diminished role (must go out and find a top-4 RD). See how he fares next year with a longer off-season and hopefully no off-season surgery. If he plays well, trade him. If he doesn't buy him out next year. That cuts down on 2 years of buy-out dead cap space and it gives the Rangers a bottom-4 minute eater who can PK.

Staal and Klein should be gone and they have value. If they buy-out Girardi and make those trades, that leaves McDonagh and MAYBE Yandle as NHL d-men? Would be nice to throw Girardi on the bottom-pairing for another season for experience and depth.
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They could sign another experienced defenseman who also can't play anymore for a lot cheaper than Girardi. I don't think that should be the deciding factor.
 
NYR Viper

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Thirty One said:
They could sign another experienced defenseman who also can't play anymore for a lot cheaper than Girardi. I don't think that should be the deciding factor.
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While I agree, I don't think having Girardi on the roster for another year, after moving Klein, Staal and Nash, is going to somehow stop them from doing what they want this off-season. Klein + Nash + Staal + Boyle + Moore gone is a lot of money coming off the books. Hold on to Girardi for another year and see if he can raise his game a bit with a full off-season and cut down on his cap hit at worst case for the long-term buyout
 
Thirty One

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Staals Eye said:
He makes out better financially by being bought out. So why would he want a trade instead?
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He does? He'd lose $5 million if he were bought out, and that's not including salary deferral. You think he makes that up as a free agent?
 
Kaapodonna

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Thirty One said:
He does? He'd lose $5 million if he were bought out, and that's not including salary deferral. You think he makes that up as a free agent?
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Absolutely I do. 1 bad season? Gm's will look at it as a blip and pay him. Free agent frenzy. Look how many bad years Redden had and still got paid.
 
haveandare

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Staals Eye said:
He makes out better financially by being bought out. So why would he want a trade instead?
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Pride? I don't know, I feel like it's a nice thing to do for someone who's given a lot to the team and it costs NYR nothing - gives them a chance to save cap if anything.
 
haveandare

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NYR Viper said:
If I am the Rangers, I hold on to Girardi. Now hear me out:

Trade Staal and Klein. Re-sign Yandle.

Hold on to Girardi for 1 more year in a diminished role (must go out and find a top-4 RD). See how he fares next year with a longer off-season and hopefully no off-season surgery. If he plays well, trade him. If he doesn't buy him out next year. That cuts down on 2 years of buy-out dead cap space and it gives the Rangers a bottom-4 minute eater who can PK.

Staal and Klein should be gone and they have value. If they buy-out Girardi and make those trades, that leaves McDonagh and MAYBE Yandle as NHL d-men? Would be nice to throw Girardi on the bottom-pairing for another season for experience and depth.
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Who plays with McD in this case?
 
Kaapodonna

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haveandare said:
Pride? I don't know, I feel like it's a nice thing to do for someone who's given a lot to the team and it costs NYR nothing - gives them a chance to save cap if anything.
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I'm sorry, I must have misread what you meant. I thought you meant tell him he's being bought out to force him to waive his not trade. I apologize. Your right, it would be a nice gesture being he's given so much for the organization.
 

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Of course buy him out. Tell him it's going to happen and he's free to waive and you'll try to move him first if he'd prefer. If not, buy him out.
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Why would he accept a trade if he could get bought out and cash in from that AND sign a new deal with a different team?
 
Hunter Gathers

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Edge said:
Unfortunately, I'm not sure I see anyone biting on Girardi without the Rangers eating at least half the salary.

If you find a taker, you're paying $2.75 million for the next four years.

If you buy him out, you pay an average of $1.65 million for the next eight.

The other option is you just ride it out and hope that maybe you get a very expensive sixth defenseman.
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The problem with riding it out is that you have to have a coach that recognizes that he's a bottom pairing guy.
 
Hunter Gathers

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NYR Viper said:
If I am the Rangers, I hold on to Girardi. Now hear me out:

Trade Staal and Klein. Re-sign Yandle.

Hold on to Girardi for 1 more year in a diminished role (must go out and find a top-4 RD). See how he fares next year with a longer off-season and hopefully no off-season surgery. If he plays well, trade him. If he doesn't buy him out next year. That cuts down on 2 years of buy-out dead cap space and it gives the Rangers a bottom-4 minute eater who can PK.

Staal and Klein should be gone and they have value. If they buy-out Girardi and make those trades, that leaves McDonagh and MAYBE Yandle as NHL d-men? Would be nice to throw Girardi on the bottom-pairing for another season for experience and depth.
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This is likely the best solution.
 
poeman

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Its a tough call but we need to try and move him at all costs, for both of our sakes. If he doesnt want to move then lets keep him as a 3rd liner for next year and then trade him when his NMC is gone.

We have to move at least Staal or Girardi this year. I have to imagine they have value to other teams but will they accept a move?

Toronto...I see you :)
 
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