Buyout Girardi?
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I thought we had already used both of our amnesty provisions in Redden and Richards. I could be wrong though.
Thordic
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The Gloaming
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I'm voting yes, but obviously only under the condition that it's impossible to trade him and take back less cap than the buyout.
Oscar Lindberg
Registered User
At this point they can't hold onto him any more.
There's little chance a team takes a flyer on him and wants to trade for him, so you have to buy him out. Team suffers the cap consequences as mentioned, but he can't hurt the team with his play anymore. Holding onto him for another season would not be wise of them.
I'd much rather trade him for some sort of asset, but at this point it's somewhat irrelevant.
There's little chance a team takes a flyer on him and wants to trade for him, so you have to buy him out. Team suffers the cap consequences as mentioned, but he can't hurt the team with his play anymore. Holding onto him for another season would not be wise of them.
I'd much rather trade him for some sort of asset, but at this point it's somewhat irrelevant.
Inferno
Registered User
no buyout...id rather bury him in the minors or in the press box and not have to eat that cap hit for the next fifty years.
Flyers fan here.... What the hell happened to Dan Girardi that you guys hate him so passionately. I remember like three years ago he was an amazing shut down guy. Between him and McD you guys were next to impossible to break defensively.
NYRFAN218
King
Well you're only saving 950K by doing that. Basically it comes down to would you prefer to basically carry a $4.5 cap hit for the next 4 years or the dead cap hit as seen above for the next 4 years with $1.25 the following 4 years after that.
At this point, he just needs to be off the roster even if we're eating substantial money. 4.5 dead cap hit with no Girardi is better than 5.5 cap hit with Girardi.
Off Sides
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I voted No, reason being any gained cap space will likely be wasted anyway on some sort of quick fix that fixes nothing. I'd rather see Girardi hanging around even at his current playing level than another Glass, Boyle, Stoll, or whatever else they end up using the gained cap space on.
If they have to use the cap space to re-sign a RFA, like committing to a longer term buy up some UFA years on Miller, Kreider instead of a bridge, instead of using it on UFA shopping, then I'd vote Yes, but I don't see them doing that.
If they have to use the cap space to re-sign a RFA, like committing to a longer term buy up some UFA years on Miller, Kreider instead of a bridge, instead of using it on UFA shopping, then I'd vote Yes, but I don't see them doing that.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
I'm not sure you fully understand how any of this works.
Burying him in the minors saves $950k and nothing more. Even in the top years, buying him out saves more money than that. Keeping him in the press box saves nothing at all.
Holding a $1.25m cap hit for 4 years after his contract would have expired is essentially pocket change, provided the rest of the cap is managed properly.
I'd rather find somewhere to move him at 50% retained though.
I think the Rangers are going to buy out Girardi. I don't think they have a choice based on his play this season. Girardi showed nothing to indicate that he would improve or his regression wouldn't continue.
All we can do right now is read into situations. This is my take. I think the Rangers playing Girardi in game 5 was a good indication they are buying him out. What!!! How can that be? Well, you can't buyout an injured player. That isn't to say Girardi might not be injured right now. I bet most players are injured to some extent. I think the Rangers just avoided a scenario where an agent will say "Hey my client is hurt, you can't buy him out" vs a scenario where the Rangers say "Your client was well enough to play a playoff game, here is our medical findings.".
The whole situation sucks. The Rangers have to move on from Girardi. Cut losses now and thank the maker that the cap hit isn't too bad on the buyout.
All we can do right now is read into situations. This is my take. I think the Rangers playing Girardi in game 5 was a good indication they are buying him out. What!!! How can that be? Well, you can't buyout an injured player. That isn't to say Girardi might not be injured right now. I bet most players are injured to some extent. I think the Rangers just avoided a scenario where an agent will say "Hey my client is hurt, you can't buy him out" vs a scenario where the Rangers say "Your client was well enough to play a playoff game, here is our medical findings.".
The whole situation sucks. The Rangers have to move on from Girardi. Cut losses now and thank the maker that the cap hit isn't too bad on the buyout.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Unfortunately, I'm not sure I see anyone biting on Girardi without the Rangers eating at least half the salary.
If you find a taker, you're paying $2.75 million for the next four years.
If you buy him out, you pay an average of $1.65 million for the next eight.
The other option is you just ride it out and hope that maybe you get a very expensive sixth defenseman.
If you find a taker, you're paying $2.75 million for the next four years.
If you buy him out, you pay an average of $1.65 million for the next eight.
The other option is you just ride it out and hope that maybe you get a very expensive sixth defenseman.
The Gloaming
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He can't skate. He got turnstiled this season I think more than he has in his entire career. If he can't block a shot in the defensive zone, he's totally useless. Can't make a first pass to save his life. Worst Corsi defenseman in the league.
Not a complete disaster in the offensive zone, although given that he can never get there in the first place, it doesn't matter a whole lot.
Oscar Lindberg
Registered User
I don't think anyone hates him personally, but Rangers fans hate his play. He hurts the team more than he helps at this point. Age and years of his body taking a beating have caught up to him. He's too slow, he can't defend very well, and he can't make simple passes.
It sad because he has given his all the the Rangers, but his time has come.
His body is shot. He has no foot speed, turns the puck over a lot and looks lost 99% of the time. Even a simple clear of the puck has become an issue.
He's done.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
NYRFAN218
King
Dealing him and retaining half is much more preferable. The only year where the cap hit is more than the buyout in this case is next year and it's only by $1 million plus you're not paying him for an additional 4 years after his contract is up.
The Gloaming
23
You save no money at all by carrying him on the active roster.
You save 950K by sending him down to the minors, which given his NMC, I'm positive he wouldn't agree to in the first place.
Inferno
Registered User
Oh I'm very familiar with how it works but thanks for implying im an idiot whose never posted on here before.
I'm familiar with it, I know it and I stand by my assertion. I want this team torn down, im willing to have Dan Girardi sit in the press box and be a 5.5 million dollar trip to the cap floor or a veteran leader for the Wolfpack than to have to absorb the "chump change" when the rangers may be in a position to start adding players to a team that is developing. 1.5 mil is chump change till you realize that 1.5 mil extra here and there pays for Carl Hagelin on this team instead of the revolving door of extras we had. you can keep your condescension to yourself.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
He got a lot slower and started playing more sporadically with the puck. Played the puck like it was a live grenade.
We also play a man-to-man system with AV, and G is just slowing down way too much for that.
He's just not worth it anymore.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
$2.75m is the same as it is in year 2 of a buyout and less than it is in years 3 or 4. If you can find a taker at 50%, you do it.
Oscar Lindberg
Registered User
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