Buyout Girardi?

[The Gloaming]

Buy Out is a no deal under any circumstance. Having him sit as a healthy scratch wtih 5.57m on the cap for 4 years is better option than the buyout.

Do you mind explaining how it's better to have more dead cap space than to have less?

 

[Captain Lindy]

Flyers fan here.... What the hell happened to Dan Girardi that you guys hate him so passionately. I remember like three years ago he was an amazing shut down guy. Between him and McD you guys were next to impossible to break defensively.

He does this a lot:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNd6uh4nerM

 

[Matz03]

Sure that is the sales pitch. But no nhl team is buying that.

There are only a few dumb GM's left so this draft will be crucial timing. You have to try that. It's an almost guarantee he'd be better in a zone D than he is here. I'd be surprised if G himself didn't want out playing for AV and that scheme.

 

[Inferno]

do you really trust whoever is in charge to play such a well-respected man #6 minutes?

 

[Ail]

No.

Give him 20+ minutes again next year. It was injuries holding him back!

 

[Inferno]

Do you mind explaining how it's better to have more dead cap space than to have less?

Time. More dead cap space in the short term, less dead cap space in the long term. I dont see this as a short term team...so im less inclined to want him bought out.

with that said, im 100% in favor of retaining the max on his contract if someone will take him for a draft pick...ANY draft pick.

 

[The Gloaming]

Time. More dead cap space in the short term, less dead cap space in the long term. I dont see this as a short term team...so im less inclined to want him bought out.

with that said, im 100% in favor of retaining the max on his contract if someone will take him for a draft pick...ANY draft pick.

I understand the hesitation on buying him out as the cap penalty is pretty long-term, but aside from two seasons before 2020, it seems pretty manageable.

If we could trade him at max retained for a 7th, I'd probably be more inclined to do that. But a buyout works too.

 

[darko]

This is a really tough call. I feel that if we can get him to waive and retain 50% he could be moved. Id rather paying 2.75 the next 4 yrs then have it smaller over 8 years. Just my opinion though.

I tend to agree.

 

[Ail]

Between him and McD you guys were next to impossible to break defensively.

Impossible to break defensively, or impossible to score many goals on? The former suggests incredible shot suppression rates, the latter suggests an elite goaltender. I'll let you decide which one you believe the Rangers had more often than not.

 

[Ail]

do you really trust whoever is in charge to play such a well-respected man #6 minutes?

The more I think about it, the next year or two I don't even care if they do play Girardi and/or Tanner Glass 20+ minutes a night. We should have zero expectations on winning if they are doing this correctly, and if that's true, we should also hope they lose as much as possible. It will be a miserable two seasons, but worth it in the end assuming they don't completely **** it up at the draft.

 

[NYRFAN218]

The thing is like I said last page, I 100% think you can find a taker at 50% retained for him without the Rnagers having to add anything to entice the team. You may not get anything substantial but you'll be rid of him and half the cap hit. The issue again is the NMC. He controls where he goes and if he knows his days are numbered here, he may rather wait for the buyout where he gets 2/3rds money and can handpick his next place while collecting more money. The only reason I could see him waiving is if he's perfectly fine with the place they wind up sending him to or if he just doesn't want to be a pain to the team that treated him well for 10 or so years.

 

[Inferno]

The thing is like I said last page, I 100% think you can find a taker at 50% retained for him without the Rnagers having to add anything to entice the team. You may not get anything substantial but you'll be rid of him and half the cap hit. The issue again is the NMC. He controls where he goes and if he knows his days are numbered here, he may rather wait for the buyout where he gets 2/3rds money and can handpick his next place while collecting more money. The only reason I could see him waiving is if he's perfectly fine with the place they wind up sending him to or if he just doesn't want to be a pain to the team that treated him well for 10 or so years.

i dont know how any GM in this day and age of analytics and video would take on Dan Girardi.

If we took half his contract youd have to imagine a team would want to give us at least 1 crappy player making 1-2 mil a year.

 

[Captain Lindy]

i dont know how any GM in this day and age of analytics and video would take on Dan Girardi.

If we took half his contract youd have to imagine a team would want to give us at least 1 crappy player making 1-2 mil a year.

It could be Girardi isn't they type of player to play this system of defense. He might be workable in a zone defense like another poster said here. He might be good working in Columbus with Torts.

 

[Thirty One]

i dont know how any GM in this day and age of analytics and video would take on Dan Girardi.

If we took half his contract youd have to imagine a team would want to give us at least 1 crappy player making 1-2 mil a year.

We're only three years removed from Doug Murray getting two 2nds at the trade deadline!

 

[haveandare]

Of course buy him out. Tell him it's going to happen and he's free to waive and you'll try to move him first if he'd prefer. If not, buy him out.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't think we are going to rebuild, so absolutely.

 

[Vitto79]

I'd play him 1 more year . Try and trade . Buyout after that if they have too

 

[Captain Lindy]

Of course buy him out. Tell him it's going to happen and he's free to waive and you'll try to move him first if he'd prefer. If not, buy him out.

Yup! Make him an offer he can't refuse. (Just don't hurt any horses)

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

no buyout...id rather bury him in the minors or in the press box and not have to eat that cap hit for the next fifty years.

Buy-out:
16-17: 1.75M
17-18: 2.75M
18-19: 3.75M
19-20: 3.75M
20-21: 1.25M
21-22: 1.25M
22-23: 1.25M
23-24: 1.25M

Send him to the minors:
16-17: 4.55M
17-18: 4.55M
18-19: 4.55M
19-20: 4.55M

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I'm voting yes, but obviously only under the condition that it's impossible to trade him and take back less cap than the buyout.

What I did as well. Then again, I think anyone who voted for the buyout would obviously prefer a trade if it's available...

 

[RangerBoy]

The alternative is trading Girardi and buying out the acquired player. It would be a cheaper buyout. Girardi is owed $19M with $4M of that in signing bonus money which is not factored into the buyout. Girardi loses 1/3 of the $15M. The player acquired would need to have just salary remaining and the same or less term than Girardi has left. If it's a good team in a good location and Girardi plays under his contract for at least one more season,why not waive?

 

[DanielBrassard]

Very true RB. Bolland, Seidenberg, Ericsson, could be those guys

 

[Desdichado93]

Possible depend on how Giradi himself feels about his "future career". Perhaps have come to the conclusion that there is a life after hockey.

You know, that he feels that his body can't take more damage without it becoming ruined for life and decides to retire?

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Very true RB. Bolland, Seidenberg, Ericsson, could be those guys

I like the Bolland idea. Florida's defense sucks after Campbell and Ekblad, and Campbell might be gone for them after July 1st. Though I guess Girardi doesn't help much in that area, but they don't need to know that.

 

[Kaapodonna]

Of course buy him out. Tell him it's going to happen and he's free to waive and you'll try to move him first if he'd prefer. If not, buy him out.

He makes out better financially by being bought out. So why would he want a trade instead?