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But Berube is not the primary coach of the PK unit. I thought that was cocunut heads job.
Berube is the one saying he wants them to be aggressive.
But Berube is not the primary coach of the PK unit. I thought that was cocunut heads job.
Coburn has 1 year left on his deal after this year and by the time he finishes it will be 31. He is still very mobile and still our best dman at defending the blue line and retrieving pucks from the corner. He is also our best choice to defend some of the better power forwards in the game such as malkin and ovi.
The problem is this. He will want Macdonald money and maybe similar term and that is gonna bite us in the you know what. As painful as it may be to part with him, now is the time to do so and a team that has been interested in him for a long time just got the perfect asset for him.
So would you trade coburn for pittsburgh's 1st?
Pittsburgh already traded their 1st, along with Klinkhammer, to Edmonton for David Perron.
He's suggesting that the Oilers would give us Pittsburgh's first for Coburn, not Pittsburgh themselves.
Pittsburgh already traded their 1st, along with Klinkhammer, to Edmonton for David Perron.
They could easily get a 1st for him. Probably our most valuable trade block piece. Unless Simmonds is on the block too.
Coburn is overrated. His offensive game has regressed over the years and his overall play is very inconsistent. Coburn skates well and has size, but man, he seems to make less good use of those tools as each season goes by. Many like him because he's the longest tenured Flyer and a good guy and he's "big and mobile", but the reality is the player has pretty much regressed from his first couple of years here where he looked to have all the makings of a legit two way-guy who could play solid D while producing 40 points (give or take) or so. He was more featured in the offense and got some pp time. Nowadays the offense has dried up and his defensive inconsistencies get exposed more often.
Knowing nothing about their prior years, if one looked to objectively compare Grossmann and Coburn this season, once could make a pretty strong case that Grossmann has been the superior player (and a better value at his cap hit). Yet the perception by many seems to be Grossmann is overrated, overpaid and expendable while Coburn is the better player. I'd like to see the Flyers capitalize on that perception and entertain offers and try to get a 1st rounder for him before his new deal makes him even more overpaid.
They could easily get a 1st for him.
Not sure there's any evidence to back this.
Disagree on Boychuk and the rest are pretty close, imo.
And none of those guys fetched a 1st.
Disagree on Boychuk and the rest are pretty close, imo.
And none of those guys fetched a 1st.
I don't see a prospect coming back in the Coburn deal. Teams now that we're just as desperate to move him as they are to get him. Losing that 4.5M would be really helpful.
As far as Boychuk I pass. We're at the time now where I don't know that they're going to be very good next year either and I'd rather see them try to work guys like Morin, Hagg, and Alt into the lineup than spend more money on free agents. We're not really helping ourselves if we continue to do the same things over and over with free agents. What is the definition of insanity again? A lot has to do with what other moves we make besides Coburn. If they can move Grossman or Streit they should probably try.
I wouldn't mind trying this even though I know it's going to be bad
Streit MacDonald
Schenn Ghost
MDZ Morin
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That doesn't add up and actually shows that he's being underrated. He was bad for the first few games since he came back from injury, but since then he's been much better.
You could make a case that Grossmann's been the better player, just like I could make a case that the sun is cold. The problem is that we'd both be wrong. Coburn's at least as good defensively and he's miles and miles ahead in both skating and passing. The reason he could be moved is because he's going to want a lot for his next contract and his our most valuable non-core piece. Getting a pick instead of overpaying for an aging defensemen is a good thing, especially because we need to make room for prospects. Definitely want to get rid of Grossmann, but that's because he's just plain bad and not worth much.