Confirmed with Link: Brady Tkachuk - The decider: signs 3 year ELC

[foggyvisor]

Hey all, remember when Mike Zibanejad was basically going to become Mats Sundin?

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Hey all, remember when Mike Zibanejad was basically going to become Mats Sundin?

Remember when Rick Condra brought the stamina?

 

[Liver King]

~25g-40a career year

~20g-35a career average

I don't foresee any better goal scoring than Zib.

Very good player, and depending what your view and expectation is a viable guy at 4.

He will never be "the guy" on his line though, which is expected really.

Hey that's pretty good.

If he can produce at a similar rate to Hoffman while bringing all the other valuable elements to his game I would be very happy.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Probably close imo... and I still think he will bring a lot to the team from how he plays and accumulates those points

If the guys is consistently 20-35 it’s hard to be mad about that. This draft wasn’t stacked at the top. 55 points is nothing to shake your head at. Plus he’s going to be a physical guy? Sounds good to me and I’ll take that.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

If the guys is consistently 20-35 it’s hard to be mad about that. This draft wasn’t stacked at the top. 55 points is nothing to shake your head at. Plus he’s going to be a physical guy? Sounds good to me and I’ll take that.

But if you could have a 40 goal guy, the next Erik Karlsson or a legit top line center instead wouldn't you take that?

 

[Ray Kinsella]

But if you could have a 40 goal guy, the next Erik Karlsson or a legit top line center instead wouldn't you take that?

But we don’t. So it’s difficult to carry on the argument of hypotheticals.

I feel we have to give this young man a fair chance without extravagant expectations.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

But we don’t. So it’s difficult to carry on the argument of hypotheticals.

I feel we have to give this young man a fair chance without extravagant expectations.

Sure. Think of me directing that criticism at Dorion and Melnyk and not Tkachuk. I'm more faulting this on them and not Brady. Not having that 2019 pick is going to be catastrophic. Not his fault Dorion has absolutely no regard for the future of the Sens.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Sure. Think of me directing that criticism at Dorion and Melnyk and not Tkachuk. I'm more faulting this on them and not Brady.

I get what you mean.

I look forward to watching him. Hopefully the fans in general will not put too much pressure on him, so to speak.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

But if you could have a 40 goal guy, the next Erik Karlsson or a legit top line center instead wouldn't you take that?

Well yeah. But svechnikov or dahlin did not fall to 4th. And as for a center. There wasn’t a top line center there. Depending on how you feel about kotkaniemi (who didn’t fall to fourth either. )

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Well yeah. But svechnikov or dahlin did not fall to 4th. And as for a center. There wasn’t a top line center there. Depending on how you feel about kotkaniemi (who didn’t fall to fourth either. )

Hughes, Zadina, 2019.

 

[Liver King]

Hughes, Zadina, 2019.

just to clarify as I do not watch these prospects:

you are projecting Zadina to be a 40 goal scorer, Hughes to be the next Erik Karlsson (ppg dman)

and Brady Tkachuk to be the next Patrick Maroon?

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

just to clarify as I do not watch these prospects:

you are projecting Zadina to be a 40 goal scorer, Hughes to be the next Erik Karlsson (ppg dman)

and Brady Tkachuk to be the next Patrick Maroon?

Just saying Zadina has huge upside as a goal scorer, Hughes looks absolute amazeballs right now, can't stress enough how well he played in that showcase. 2019 draft looks pretty crazy right now especially at the center ice position. Jack Hughes aside, other guys like Cozens are killing it. Again, I want to stress this, the decision to draft Tkachuk instead of the other players on the board and give Colorado our pick in 2019 is an immensely poor decision by our management. That's on them and not Tkachuk. Tkachuk can be a NHLer, he's just not the franchise level player you'd want out of a draft when being the worst team in hockey.

 

[Liver King]

Just saying Zadina has huge upside as a goal scorer, Hughes looks absolute amazeballs right now, can't stress enough how well he played in that showcase. 2019 draft looks pretty crazy right now especially at the center ice position. Jack Hughes aside, other guys like Cozens are killing it. Again, I want to stress this, the decision to draft Tkachuk instead of the other players on the board and give Colorado our pick in 2019 is an immensely poor decision by our management. That's on them and not Tkachuk. Tkachuk can be a NHLer, he's just not the franchise level player you'd want out of a draft when being the worst team in hockey.

do you think Zadina and Q. Hughes are franchise players? or what do you project them to be

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

do you think Zadina and Q. Hughes are franchise players? or what do you project them to be

Yes on both accounts. Zadina is gonna be a Laine lite/Pastrnak and Hughes will be a Krug/Subban type of player. Dobson is another guy where I see true franchise potential. Pietrangelo stuff. Dorion goofed, but like I've said before I think Melnyk made that pick, not him or Mann.

 

[mysens]

Ottawa took Brady as they have goofed many times over the years going with the finesse player. I believe they said they wanted to change the culture, this type of player is that.

 

[Sensinitis]

Yes on both accounts. Zadina is gonna be a Laine lite/Pastrnak and Hughes will be a Krug/Subban type of player. Dobson is another guy where I see true franchise potential. Pietrangelo stuff. Dorion goofed, but like I've said before I think Melnyk made that pick, not him or Mann.

Wow you are seriously overrating Zadina.

Pastrnak/Laine? Wow... that’s fine if you think he’ll be that good, but it’s shocking to read.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Ottawa took Brady as they have goofed many times over the years going with the finesse player. I believe they said they wanted to change the culture, this type of player is that.

All those finesse players Ottawa has taken in the first round! They finally learned. I'm glad the team doesn't look for skill in their players anymore. With any luck we can make the Ottawa Senators great again like in the early 2000s when we were truly dominant and didn't worry about out scoring opponents, like the fake news media would make you think matters. We'll have beautiful players! Punch people in the mouth and bring small business back to Kanata. No more Hossas! No more Karlssons! We'll have Tkachuks, Cowens and Lazars! Thanks god for Dorion and his vision of the Sens! #blessed #wegotTkachuk;p

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Just saying Zadina has huge upside as a goal scorer, Hughes looks absolute amazeballs right now, can't stress enough how well he played in that showcase. 2019 draft looks pretty crazy right now especially at the center ice position. Jack Hughes aside, other guys like Cozens are killing it. Again, I want to stress this, the decision to draft Tkachuk instead of the other players on the board and give Colorado our pick in 2019 is an immensely poor decision by our management. That's on them and not Tkachuk. Tkachuk can be a NHLer, he's just not the franchise level player you'd want out of a draft when being the worst team in hockey.

The sens were not the worst team in hockey and will be picking 10th at worst next season

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Yes on both accounts. Zadina is gonna be a Laine lite/Pastrnak and Hughes will be a Krug/Subban type of player. Dobson is another guy where I see true franchise potential. Pietrangelo stuff. Dorion goofed, but like I've said before I think Melnyk made that pick, not him or Mann.

That is extremely delusional thinking to think Eugene Melnyk is now making draft decisions. Dorion and Mann made the right call and Tkachuk was regarded higher than both Zadina and Hughes in the scouting community.

Your bias is really showing here and I’m not sure anyone is ever going to take you seriously

 

[Brannstorm]

If we look at what we have in Tkachuk it is obviously enticing. I can only go by what I have seen on highlights and from articles.

He was consensus overall 4 pick and he went 4. Brings an all around game and is NHL ready, makes his team better added to a plethora of young talent with similar descriptions of individual motivation and leadership (white, chabot, batherson).

Brady 6-3, 190-ish power forward already capable of being an impact player at both ends of the ice. Probably NHL ready if not then close (at least he feels he is)

Hughes 5-8, very skilled defenceman, Needs to grow and learn how to play in leagues where everyone is bigger than he is. Going back to school and feels it is best for him.

What I am getting at is if we had picked hughes it would become clear that he would have been the real gamble. Some people might be questioning his height, others his willingness to sign with the sens if he plays a couple of years in college etc. etc.

 

[scallionjj11]

Tkachuks playmaking is about Zibanejad caliber imo

So non existent ?

 

[scallionjj11]

Sure. Think of me directing that criticism at Dorion and Melnyk and not Tkachuk. I'm more faulting this on them and not Brady. Not having that 2019 pick is going to be catastrophic. Not his fault Dorion has absolutely no regard for the future of the Sens.

The obvious view and outlook on the team this year is that we're going to suck but lets wait and see what happens, funnier things have happened.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

The sens were not the worst team in hockey and will be picking 10th at worst next season

Right, the last 70 games of the season were just a fluke. It is me who is the delusional one.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Hughes, Zadina, 2019.

Okay well zadina is none of the things you mentioned. Why are you suddenly cool with something outside of your criteria now?

 

[branch]

Okay well zadina is none of the things you mentioned. Why are you suddenly cool with something outside of your criteria now?

Zadina will most likely end up as a Frolik type player IMO