Best player getting no hype

[VoluntaryDom]

That's great. Kase is a good player.

But Point is sustaining that over twice the minutes.

i didnt say hes as good as Point did I

he is probably a top 10 winger tho

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Also, Kreider has a 1.92 p/60 over this year and last and higher xGF% rel than both of them

rel only because the rags r trash, also i was using p1/60. 2 p/60 is good but not insane. p sure cirelli has that in this span with a 58% xgf%.

 

[Machinehead]

rel only because the rags r trash, also i was using p1/60. 2 p/60 is good but not insane. p sure cirelli has that in this span with a 58% xgf%.

The only reason Point is that high is because Tampa is a machine. His rel numbers are kind of pedestrian.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

The only reason Point is that high is because Tampa is a machine. His rel numbers are kind of pedestrian.

check his qot and qoc. hes not getting cupcake mins. hes taking tough matchups and dominating. point is a monster bruh. scoring at such an elite rate too, only matthews and mackinnon have higher p1/60 this year and last with an actual sample.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Elias Pettersson has stolen much of Bo Horvat's thunder, even though Horvat has take significant step forward is his development this year. He's been outstanding, scoring at a near PPG pace and playing some of the hardest minutes in the NHL (though it remains to be seen whether he can hold up under such a heavy workload). His development curve reminds me a bit of Scheifele, where he steadily improves (exceeding expectations with each major step) and then takes off around the age of 23.

I agree Horvat has been playing with scrubs since Boeser is with Elias now and he's putting up still PPG pace almost. He's taking a huge step this year and if gets some actual wingers could possibly be a consistent PPG player moving forward. He's great in the circle and a solid 2 way player as well.

 

[Machinehead]

Now that I mention it, Kreider has a 2 p/60 and a > +8 xGFrel over three seasons.

He needs to calm his boobs.

 

[Machinehead]

check his qot and qoc. hes not getting cupcake mins. hes taking tough matchups and dominating. point is a monster bruh. scoring at such an elite rate too, only matthews and mackinnon have higher p1/60 this year and last with an actual sample.

Point is an elite player, just don't give me that 55% bullshit when he plays for Tampa. Their equipment manager is at 56%.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Point is an elite player, just don't give me that 55% bull**** when he plays for Tampa. Their equipment manager is at 56%.

the only center in the league with lower TOI QOT and higher TOI QOC in this span is mika zibanejad. point is a tough-minute guy who still scores at an absolutely elite rate and is far from a drag on possession despite his mins.

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

Josh Bailey had a great season last year and got no hype, people just called him a product of JT. JT is gone, and he's putting up another great season and still gets no hype.

 

[Machinehead]

the only center in the league with lower TOI QOT and higher TOI QOC in this span is mika zibanejad.

point is a tough-minute guy who still scores at an absolutely elite rate and is far from a drag on possession despite his mins.

I agree with you!

Just don't forget that your rel stats are there for a reason.

 

[Sam Spade]

List of players for this year and last with 55% xgf% and 2 p1/60 (in an actual sample):

Brayden Point
Ondrej Kase

Get goals and points and then we can talk about this player, i.e. tangible production.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Alex Killorn has 1.72 p1/60 and 58.45% xgf% for this year and last despite having mediocre numbers in his (significant) ice time with tyler johnson, a defensive liability who he has no chemistry with. dude is a monster and goes so under the radar.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I agree with you!

Just don't forget that your rel stats are there for a reason.

yeah. i usually "combine" raw and rel stats. take the average of (raw-50) and rel and u get a pretty useful number IMHO. considering both can be made insanely good or bad by the players team.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

the only player with both a higher xgf% and p1/60 than Killorn in the span of this year and last is Jason Zucker. yet no one ever talks about him. mid end 1st line scoring and elite possession. gets underrated due to lack of footspeed imo.

 

[Machinehead]

What I learned in boating school today is: every player on Tampa has an xGF% of 55 or more.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

What I learned in boating school today is: every player on Tampa has an xGF% of 55 or more.

not really. mostly just killorn cirelli and point are the dominant ones.

 

[Machinehead]

not really. mostly just killorn cirelli and point are the dominant ones.

Do you have any bad players?

 

[dechire]

Alex Killorn has 1.72 p1/60 and 58.45% xgf% for this year and last despite having mediocre numbers in his (significant) ice time with tyler johnson, a defensive liability who he has no chemistry with. dude is a monster and goes so under the radar.

Killorn is not that good.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Do you have any bad players?

you would say girardi but hes been perfectly average here

i guess callahan. we dont really have any liabilities though. its a great roster.

 

[Machinehead]

you would say girardi but hes been perfectly average here

i guess callahan. we dont really have any liabilities though. its a great roster.

McDonagh is only at 54%. Seems suspect to me on that roster.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

McDonagh is only at 54%. Seems suspect to me on that roster.

if you check out the minutes he plays you would understand. and also hes scoring a shit ton this year

 

[VoluntaryDom]

based on my discussions on discord, eric staal is here too. i got laughed at for calling him a top 10 center.

 

[NinjaKick]

6th round pick (162nd overall)

 

[Sparksrus3]

6th round pick (162nd overall)

I always wondered what happened to that kid from Home Alone . Thanks

 

[MrThomas]

check his qot and qoc. hes not getting cupcake mins. hes taking tough matchups and dominating. point is a monster bruh. scoring at such an elite rate too, only matthews and mackinnon have higher p1/60 this year and last with an actual sample.

I agree that Point only has great points because he plays in Tampa. He is a good player though but not that good.